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Homosexuallity is the same as polygamy

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Well then, maybe we should go back to ALL the old ways of the Bible then, and what it says. YOU are the one who cherry picks the Bible. You say "that was for a different audience, that was for then", and then you say "this is for now". CHERRY PICKING with a CAPITAL C!

I've never said any of those things "....", "...' etc etc.

Give an example, quote one perhaps, of me 'cherry picking'. Good luck. ;)
 
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Do yuo follow Levitical laws relating to clothes of mixed fibre?

You seem to not understand the difference between the validity of the law and living under the law.

For whatever reason there is the bit in the law about mixed fabrics or whatever it is (I'd recommend reading what it says), the reason is from God.

Do I wear clothes of mixed fibre? I'll do whatever I please with my Christian freedom. Will I act against the law? While we all do sin, I will not act against the law in righteousness. Will I follow the law as a means of salvation? No, for it is not the law which saves.

I'll eat shellfish if it is good to eat shellfish. I'll enjoy a pint of beer. I'll sit and smoke a ciggarette with the crack-head. I'll do whatever my conscience allows me to do. Yet I will also learn from God His law.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my understanding. Jesus never broke a single one of those OT laws and He is the example.
 
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You seem to not understand the difference between the validity of the law and living under the law.

For whatever reason there is the bit in the law about mixed fabrics or whatever it is (I'd recommend reading what it says), the reason is from God.

Do I wear clothes of mixed fibre? I'll do whatever I please with my Christian freedom. Will I act against the law? While we all do sin, I will not act against the law in righteousness. Will I follow the law as a means of salvation? No, for it is not the law which saves.

I'll eat shellfish if it is good to eat shellfish. I'll enjoy a pint of beer. I'll sit and smoke a ciggarette with the crack-head. I'll do whatever my conscience allows me to do. Yet I will also learn from God His law.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my understanding. Jesus never broke a single one of those OT laws and He is the example.
If YOU are allowed to do whatever you want w/your Christian freedom under the Levitical laws, why aren't we? you aren't making any clear sense here. You will wear the clothing of mixed fabrics (the abomination) and justify it w/your freedom, while us gays will burn in hell? Thanks for the clarification! :thumbsup:
 
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hello,
okay, Jesus did not attack homosexuality, the prejudice against homosexuals arose from humans, humans consider it wrong - this reminds me of the Pharisees who followed human laws and tradition. Jesus commandment is to love God and to love thy neighbour, if we do this we are following the law, homosexuals do not harm anyone by being homosexual therefore homosexuality is not a sin. But I dont know, this is just what i believe.
 
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hello,
okay, Jesus did not attack homosexuality, the prejudice against homosexuals arose from humans, humans consider it wrong - this reminds me of the Pharisees who followed human laws and tradition. Jesus commandment is to love God and to love thy neighbour, if we do this we are following the law, homosexuals do not harm anyone by being homosexual therefore homosexuality is not a sin. But I dont know, this is just what i believe.
At 18, you seem to understand more than people 3x your age. Congrats! you have a great head on your shoulders! :)
 
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You seem to not understand the difference between the validity of the law and living under the law.

For whatever reason there is the bit in the law about mixed fabrics or whatever it is (I'd recommend reading what it says), the reason is from God.

Do I wear clothes of mixed fibre? I'll do whatever I please with my Christian freedom. Will I act against the law? While we all do sin, I will not act against the law in righteousness. Will I follow the law as a means of salvation? No, for it is not the law which saves.

I'll eat shellfish if it is good to eat shellfish. I'll enjoy a pint of beer. I'll sit and smoke a ciggarette with the crack-head. I'll do whatever my conscience allows me to do. Yet I will also learn from God His law.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my understanding. Jesus never broke a single one of those OT laws and He is the example.
OK, so... why is it you are so down on homosexuals then?
 
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OK, so... why is it you are so down on homosexuals then?


I will answer for him:D He does not hate homosexuality. What he does not like is the fact that people often refer to it as natural and what God wants. They do not recognize it as a sin. Take Full_Moon for example, he smokes WAY TOO MUCH and his wife hates it. She thinks it is a sin (and was smoking mentioned in the Bible?) and he should stop. Why you ask? Because it is going to kill him or harm him in the long run. God does not want Full_Moon to be a smoker; God wants Full_Moon to strive to be the best person he can be. What is the difference between Full_Moon and (let's use David as an example) David? Full_moon recognizes his sin and wants to change...
 
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Because homosexuality is not going to kill anyone, like smoking is, for a start...

Homoesexuality occurs in nature, and is, based on all available evidence, a "natural" state for a minority of humans to be in, whereas cigarettes are completely artificial.

I don't think smoking is sinful, per ce, either... although I do think that WILLFULLY smoking, with the INTENTION of making yourself or others sick, probably is
 
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Because homosexuality is not going to kill anyone, like smoking is, for a start...

Homoesexuality occurs in nature, and is, based on all available evidence, a "natural" state for a minority of humans to be in, whereas cigarettes are completely artificial.

I don't think smoking is sinful, per ce, either... although I do think that WILLFULLY smoking, with the INTENTION of making yourself or others sick, probably is

Disobeying your parents may not kill anyone, it is still wrong.
 
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Disobeying your parents may not kill anyone, it is still wrong.
Perhaps you may wish to cite another example.

Doesn't that hurt your parents when you don't do what you are told?
 
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Not that homosexuality kills or hurts anyone
Yes, great point Enemyparty...David X and a few others are hijacking by making this about hurt and killing, which has nothing to do with the thread.
 
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If YOU are allowed to do whatever you want w/your Christian freedom under the Levitical laws, why aren't we? you aren't making any clear sense here. You will wear the clothing of mixed fabrics (the abomination) and justify it w/your freedom, while us gays will burn in hell? Thanks for the clarification! :thumbsup:

Catching up here. BTW, there is no freedom under levitical laws. Freedom is in Christ. I don't believe anyone or myself said anything about doing whatever we want.
 
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If someone is going to argue for homosexuality by arguing that the bible has errors in it then obviously all the BS bible interpretations that justify homosexuality are a sham. Otherwise, there would be no need to argue against scripture to support homosexuality. The fact remains that scripture condemns it.

Now this brings us to the "Major Problem".

If you, Dave, are to argue that the bible is 'obviously wrong' in some instances then what is your stardard of truth? Basically what I hear you saying is that you have more wisdom than the least of the scriptures (the ones you hold to be in error).

The problem with this sort of reasoning is that it only happens by someone thinking themselves correct. Then when reading something contrary to what they believe in scripture they assume scripture is wrong. The basis of such reasoning is "the thinker knows best". This is contrary to all scripture.

God knows best and all scripture is 'God-breathed'.
 
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