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While I don't advocate all cases of abortion, legally a fetus is not a human being, and therefore cannot be murdered. And what about the millions of fetuses killed without abortions?Jase,
Yes they murder babies in the womb and call it abortion.
Stealing harms people, and is prohibited under the 10 commandments. Nothing in Hebrew or Greek denotes that homosexuality is sinful except in the cases where it would be sinful for a heterosexual as well (rape, prostitution, idolatry etc.)But you see Christ saves from eternal death, if you dont believe homosexuality is wrong why do you expect others to agree with you that for example stealing is wrong?
What did that 5 month old baby do to deserve being under the penalty of death?Let's see ... do you understand what "under penalty of death" or "deserving death" means?
Legally a homosexual can be put to death in some countries, so the human legal argument only works depending on which humans one is talking to. According to God’s word and purposes God knows us before we are in the womb and knits us together in the womb. I believe God’s word.While I don't advocate all cases of abortion, legally a fetus is not a human being, and therefore cannot be murdered. And what about the millions of fetuses killed without abortions?
No I asked why you expect people to accept what you think, not what your argument is. Why do you expect people to accept stealing harmsStealing harms people,
Ok, nothing in Hebrew or Greek denotes that stealing is wrong to the person who says so. …discuss.Nothing in Hebrew or Greek denotes that homosexuality is sinful except in the cases where it would be sinful for a heterosexual as well (rape, prostitution, idolatry etc.)
Let's see ... do you understand what "under penalty of death" or "deserving death" means?
Then why does God allow (or presumably kill off) millions of unborn fetuses by means beyond our control?Jase,
Legally a homosexual can be put to death in some countries, so the human legal argument only works depending on which humans one is talking to. According to Gods word and purposes God knows us before we are in the womb and knits us together in the womb. I believe Gods word.
Common sense. Logic. Reason.No I asked why you expect people to accept what you think, not what your argument is. Why do you expect people to accept stealing harms
The universe is very delicate, I think the matters of heaven outweigh those of earth. God tells us that He loved us before the womb.Then why does God allow (or presumably kill off) millions of unborn fetuses by means beyond our control?
These words attempt to describe the tactics of our conscience. From the new commandment Jesus gave "love each other as I have loved you".Why do you expect people to accept stealing harms?
Common sense. Logic. Reason.
Stealing harms people, and is prohibited under the 10 commandments. Nothing in Hebrew or Greek denotes that homosexuality is sinful except in the cases where it would be sinful for a heterosexual as well (rape, prostitution, idolatry etc.)
Then why does God allow (or presumably kill off) millions of unborn fetuses by means beyond our control?
Common sense. Logic. Reason.
Show me some pro-computer using scriptures, otherwise you are sinning by participating on CF.Show us some PRO homosexuality scrptures?
Otherwise admit your position has no basis in reality.
I'm not an atheist. And I use them everyday. That's why my arguments are sound.That is standard atheist dribble. It demands that God be a Puppet Master.
I advise you use them.
Originally Posted by Lively Stone
Prove it.
I'm not an atheist.
And I use them everyday. That's why my arguments are sound.
Your point?I noticed the Messianic icon. But so many of your comebacks are standard infidels.org.
As I said I believe Gods word.Then why does God allow (or presumably kill off) millions of unborn fetuses by means beyond our control?
Thats why I expect others who are non-believers to recognise the disorder and dysfunction of homosexuality.Common sense. Logic. Reason.
The end result is death.....Homosexuality can't be of God because it bring about no life or the possibility there of. There is not one scripture supportive of homosexuality. I can find scriptures supportive of marriage(being man and wife), being single, women that can not have children... I can find scriptures on relationships between blood brothers, In-laws, friends, children and parents, adopted brothers, government and public............no where does the bible go into depth of how homosexual relationship....If homosexuality was pleasing to God then why is there no where describing this relationship? Why is there no advice for homosexuals in a relationship?Jase,
As I said I believe Gods word.
Thats why I expect others who are non-believers to recognise the disorder and dysfunction of homosexuality.
It's facetiousness at its best not only is incorrect with major gaps the very logic is sophomoric. "This is not clearly stated so God has to be ok with it" is their logic but one could say "It's not supported at all anywhere so God has to be against it"(using the same logic they are using). Then there next argument is "God made me this way I was born like this" no one was born with a sexual orientation that is default, then there is the argument nature vs. nurture which many scientist and studies have proven arguable that nurture wins. And the bible says train up a child the way he shall go and he shall not part from it...Basically saying that in the case of nature vs nurture nurture wins biblical speaking and scientifically speaking.Avneil,
Well there are two things here. Firstly it is one thing for the pro-gay argument not having any scripture to support its argument, but that isnt the issue when all the scripture condemns the pro-gay argument. The pro-gay argument shouldnt be here, logically its unworkable. A group could come here and suggest and suggest anything they liked as Christians, there cant be any less a case than no scripture that supports ones argument and several scriptures that condemn it.
It is a farce.
It's facetiousness at its best not only is incorrect with major gaps the very logic is sophomoric. "This is not clearly stated so God has to be ok with it" is their logic but one could say "It's not supported at all anywhere so God has to be against it"(using the same logic they are using).
Then there next argument is "God made me this way I was born like this"
no one was born with a sexual orientation that is default,
then there is the argument nature vs. nurture which many scientist and studies have proven arguable that nurture wins.
And the bible says train up a child the way he shall go and he shall not part from it...Basically saying that in the case of nature vs nurture nurture wins biblical speaking and scientifically speaking.
They can not prove it and their only way to win the argument is by bringing up black civil rights, gay marriage(which they can't find one gay marriage in the bible) and accusing people of being anti-gay.
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