Well then, what happens if one person believes that the Holy Spirit has taught them one thing, but another person believes that the Holy Spirit has taught them something different?
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All Christians learn the same way. Holy Spirit doesn't teach one one thing and another something totally off the wall. There is only ONE truth.
“Who are 'they', onemorequestion? Please explain.”
how come you don’t understand the scripture? They are who the passage says they are, men who suppress the truth of God.Who are 'them', onemorequestion? Please explain.
How come you don’t understand what the scripture says? God let them continue with foolish and darkened hearts which suppress the truth of God.For 'what' reason, onemorequestion? Please explain.
Of course he does, can you not understand it?Have you ANY idea AT ALL what Paul is referring to in the above scripture?
All translations I have seen translate arsenokoites as homosexuals/homosexual offenders/men absusers of themselves and sodomites. The meaning is very clear.The Bible is not clear, as the meaning of the Corinthian passage has been different over the years depending on which translation you use.
really? that’s amazing I had never heard that before ;-)The word that some translations state as "homosexual" is in Greek, arsenokoites.
no, only pro-gay scholars invent that, the Bible translators over the centuries and still today along with the majority of Greek scholars would not agree with your view.Arsenokoites is the greek translation of the Hebrew Qadesh, which means shrine/temple prostitute.
We each grow into our likeness with every moment that passes, so it is natural that every human will display dissimilarities in ethics, personality and beliefs. Once you have accepted Jesus in your life, you are filled with the holy spirit. Until that happens, it will be difficult to understand what the term "holy spirit" means.Well then, what happens if one person believes that the Holy Spirit has taught them one thing, but another person believes that the Holy Spirit has taught them something different?
KCKID said:The Holy Spirit has CLEARLY told Seventh-day Adventists that mainstream Christianity's blatant non-observance of the 7th-day Sabbath (Friday sundown/Saturday sundown) will figure very predominantly and negatively toward them (mainstream Christianity) in last day events involving 'the Mark of the Beast'. How do you feel about THIS message from the Holy Spirit? And, how come if the HS teaches ALL Christians the same way that YOU haven't received YOUR 'Sabbath message' yet?
KCKID said:Or, is the SDA Holy Spirit an imposter?
No He hasn't.
KCKID,
Why do you ask onemorequestion? Is the NT not addressing all believers?
What does the text say? They are men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, and have turned away from Gods truth.
how come you dont understand the scripture? They are who the passage says they are, men who suppress the truth of God.
How come you dont understand what the scripture says? God let them continue with foolish and darkened hearts which suppress the truth of God.
Of course he does, can you not understand it?
The passage refers to men who suppress the truth with their wickedness and foolish thinking. The passage then describes what things are done as a result. .. idol worship, same sex relations, envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice, gossiping, slanderering, God-hating, insolent, arrogant and boastful.
Take homosexuality.
It is idol worship especially evident when references to gay Christian is made as it makes a sin equal to Christ as an identity.
It is sexual immorality itself.
And the passage also describes how such men invent ways of doing evil, they invent concepts and words such as heterosexual and homosexual which cut across Gods word, and invent monogamous loving homosexual relationships as though there is some sort of exception to the truth.
Most of it is scripture. The homosexual views are what the scripture is talking about. Men who abandon the natural use with women and commit indecent acts with men, are men suppressing the truth of God’s word.What a bunch of made up anti-gay piffle.
The Holy Spirit has CLEARLY told Seventh-day Adventists that mainstream Christianity's blatant non-observance of the 7th-day Sabbath (Friday sundown/Saturday sundown) will figure very predominantly and negatively toward them (mainstream Christianity) in last day events involving 'the Mark of the Beast'. How do you feel about THIS message from the Holy Spirit? And, how come if the HS teaches ALL Christians the same way that YOU haven't received YOUR 'Sabbath message' yet?
Or, is the SDA Holy Spirit an imposter?
KCKID,
Most of it is scripture. The homosexual views are what the scripture is talking about. Men who abandon the natural use with women and commit indecent acts with men, are men suppressing the truth of Gods word.
All your pro-gay argument has done is dispute it all. How about I respond that your views are just anti-Christian and disbelief?
Personally, I'm tired of the circular logic used in this thread. If anyone wants to continue discussing this with me, they can send me a PM, or engage in any of the several other threads on this topic! But I'm going to have to excuse myself from this thread, because I really feel like I'm wasting my time.
They do don't they? Down in ethics and morality? It is fascinating and fantastic to watch what goes on down there.We do have a forum (like other forums) with two worldviews of Christianity, completely divided on the issue of homosexuality, dominating most debates on the issue and with no common ground.
Maybe CF should have three sections,
- all including non-believers
Christian
LGBT Christian
Do the SDA's have a version of the Bible that shows us some support or celebration of homosexuality between Christians or the lost?
The SDAs use the same Bible versions as you probably do. And, the SDAs are probably just as misled about what the Bible DOES NOT say about homosexuality as you are.
Okay?
But what if your wrong did you ever think of that? Are you so sure that you are prepared to risk eternal life?The SDAs use the same Bible versions as you probably do. And, the SDAs are probably just as misled about what the Bible DOES NOT say about homosexuality as you are.
Okay?
But what if your wrong did you ever think of that? Are you so sure that you are prepared to risk eternal life?
You do understand that even if it is not clear(even though I think its clear) that doesnt mean its not true. Right now you are gambling are you sure you want to gamble with your eternal life?
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