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If we are capable of leading one into sin...are we then not capable of attempting to lead one away from it?The only spiritual work of mercy that I know with regards to getting a soul to Heaven is Jesus' death on the Cross and His resurrection on the third day -- and even there, it was Jesus who did the work, not we.
Romans 3:27-31
Where then is the boasting? It is excluded. By what manner of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. We maintain therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Isnt he the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith, and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then nullify the law through faith? May it never be! No, we establish the law.
So when truth is spoken to the acts of homosexuality and they run from the "church" because they don't want to embrace the truth Whom really are they running from and where exactly are they running?
If we are capable of leading one into sin...are we then not capable of attempting to lead one away from it?
This really is a conversation for another thread...IMHO!
Peace be with you!
Homosexuals reject the Church and Christianity because they enjoy the kind of lifestyle that they are leading, and they know that true Christianity opposes that lifestyle, so they refuse to accept it. They try to make it seem that Christians' behaviours and attitudes are the cause of their faith, or lack there of...when in reality, no one can decide who you serve but youOne has to wonder: have all these Scripture "bullet passages", and all the condemnations and aspersions, and "loving the sinner and hating the sin", and using the teachings of the Church to exclude people ever caused more than a very few gay or lesbian people to become heterosexual?
One thing I do know: these behaviors and attitudes have caused many, if not most gay and lesbian people to reject the Church* and Christianity, in entirety -- and the Church will be held accountable for that.
*The Church, e.g., Christianity as a whole
Here are some scripture on this subject..
Jude 1 Corinthians 6
neither...Well, we have to ask ourselves some questions:
When we tell gays and lesbians "the truth" about acts of homosexuality and they run from "the church", were we telling them "the truth" for their benefit -- or for ours?
neither...And when we tell them we "love the sinner and hate the sin" -- is that for their benefit -- or for ours?
You should take the whole Bible to be a representative of Truth. We are all sinners...but this should not stop us from spreading truth and the gospel given to us by Christ!And when we use "clobber passages" on them -- especially when we ignore passages which pertain to us -- is that for their benefit -- or for ours?
Ah, but the argument isn't to embrace sin, but rather that something isn't actually sin.Jesus never once in all His ministry embraced the sin.. Only the sinner.. What did He say to the woman at the well? Go and what Sin no more.. The adulterous woman Mary Magdiline..Neither do I condemn the go and what sin no more.. So He does embrace sinners.. He does not embrace sin.
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We should do it out of love for God! Hating sin is an expression of love!
You should take the whole Bible to be a representative of Truth. We are all sinners...but this should not stop us from spreading truth and the gospel given to us by Christ!
But you appear to be lumping those that are pointing it out as a sin, and we all sin, in the same boat as those who persecute, and attack. Naming a sin does NOT equal hating the person who has done it.Hating sin -- and making life miserable for those we deem "those AWFUL [name the sinners we hate the most]" -- is an act of love?
Au contraire. "Even as you did it to the least of these, you did it to Me" can be an act of love, or it can be an act of hate -- and Jesus said so, Himself.
That hardly fits into the account of all those who say they've been homosexual as far as they can remember. I don't think God will throw a 6-year-old over homosexuality because he didn't worship the Lord. I don't think Paul would've thought so either, so IMO that's an argument toward him not speaking about homosexuals as we know them.Homosexuality is a consequence of not glorifying God in worship, and is a mark of moral depravity.
In your opinion.
It is not the sinner that we hate...it is sin! You are totally missing the point!Hating sin -- and making life miserable for those we deem "those AWFUL [name the sinners we hate the most]" -- is an act of love?
Au contraire. "Even as you did it to the least of these, you did it to Me" can be an act of love, or it can be an act of hate -- and Jesus said so, Himself.
But you appear to be lumping those that are pointing it out as a sin, and we all sin, in the same boat as those who persecute, and attack. Naming a sin does NOT equal hating the person who has done it.
No1's "naming" someone else's sin...this whole topic is about HOMOSEXUALITY, so of course we're going to discuss that and what we think of it....i havent seen any1 in here say we are not all sinners...ur just tryin 2 be difficult....either way we'll all be accountable to God so u can keep being "difficult", your battle is with him, not usNaming someone else's sin -- while ignoring the plethora of our own sins -- is also the sin of hypocrisy.
Jesus was very clear about what He thought of hypocrites.
It is not the sinner that we hate...it is sin! You are totally missing the point!
I do not hate those who perform homosexual acts, I love them because God loves them...that is why we should want them to stop sinning...because we love them!
true but show me one person that deosn't give in to temptation every day at some point.No!
Sin is not something we are just suppose to accept as "well, that's just the way we are.." We must not give into the temptation to sin...do you not agree?
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