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I'm sorry, I failed to see the homosexual sin one mentioned in that post. LOLWell. I came across some proofs that 1st century christians strictly forbid homosexuality. And those passages leave NO place for debate or interpretation. They are really really clear.
Check this topic about it (read the quote):
http://www.christianforums.com/t4864902-canon-new-testament-apocrypha.html
Now you are just plain judging and trolling...wowIsa 6:
9] And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
[10] Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
WHAT?No, he didn't. Man was created sinless but with free will. Could we truly love God if we were forced to?
Being created with free will is not the same as being created sinful. God is not the author of sin!
Matthew 7: 1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.If it were not such a tragedy I would find this hilarious
sexual relations between two males, esp. when one of them is a minor.And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty[...]
If you don't know what pederasty means, check your dictonary.
No I don't Because I admit I am a slaveYou pick and choose what you begin to follow. Jesus condoned slavery, so should you, because you only take historical things into count when you want to.
I would still like to know how you cleans homosexuality, but Adultry, all manner of incest, and beastiality remain sin
You are a slave? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!No I don't Because I admit I am a slave
I would still like to know how you cleans homosexuality, but Adultry, all manner of incest, and beastiality remain sin
Thanks for the laughs, I knew I wasn't the one losing it.
You will have to read the thread, I already explained why incest is still condmened and you will get your posts thrown out and a warning if you talk about the "B" sin, we don't talk about that here.
like I said its heart wrenchingMatthew 7: 1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
6"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
No, it has nothing to do with it because you either misunderstand me or are simply misrepresenting me.It has EVERYTHING to do with what you are talking about. Sin is contrary to God, so even if it was a sin, it doesn't become idolatry. Point taken, end of =\
I point to this not because it speaks to homosexuality directly, but because it attests to the form the Type is meant to take in relation to the antitype.15 And Jesus said to them, “Can the friends of the bridegroom mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast.
(Matthew 9)
Do these things not point back to Genesis 2 and the marital covenant?9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven last plagues came to me and talked with me, saying, “Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” (Revelation 21)
Is Jesus only referring to marriage between a man and a woman in this passage?4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”
8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”
(Matthew 19)
In normal context you are correct, but when you are talking about someone who is only attracted to the same sex, your point CANNOT be taken into consideration!No, it has nothing to do with it because you either misunderstand me or are simply misrepresenting me.
I am not saying the antitype is the type. I am saying the antitype points to the type and the two share the same form. In literate terms; I am not saying homosexuality is idolatry, but I am saying that homosexuality and idolatry both reverse their respective antitype. If you want to take that as my saying that idolatry = homosexuality, I can't force you to see what I'm actually saying here, but it's an illogical twist to the concept I'm presenting, as it is clearly laid out in scripture.
For example;
What is Jesus talking about when he says this?
I point to this not because it speaks to homosexuality directly, but because it attests to the form the Type is meant to take in relation to the antitype.
Or this, being a much more clear example;
Do these things not point back to Genesis 2 and the marital covenant?
Is Jesus only referring to marriage between a man and a woman in this passage?
We were freed from sin to be slaves to righteousness in Christ. And yet again we reach another widespread antitype.You are a slave? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the laughs, I knew I wasn't the one losing it.
You will have to read the thread, I already explained why incest is still condmened and you will get your posts thrown out and a warning if you talk about the "B" sin, we don't talk about that here.
20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(Romans 6)
Scriptural slavery in many ways sounds much better than capitalism.I'm not talking about THAT type of slavery, I'm talking about human to human slavery!
And now the dialog breaks into emotional appeal.In normal context you are correct, but when you are talking about someone who is only attracted to the same sex, your point CANNOT be taken into consideration!
Yes, show me one same sex, loving monogamous relationship condemned in the Bible. What does that have to do w/emotional, it has to do w/facts.And now the dialog breaks into emotional appeal.
Can you prove a subjective experience to be objective?
You're relying on the foundational idea that same-sex attraction is innate. This is why I asked for you to prove a subjective experience to be objective.Yes, show me one same sex, loving monogamous relationship condemned in the Bible. What does that have to do w/emotional, it has to do w/facts.
Look at all the other sins, and you will see how they are all logical except for this one. This does not hurt anyone, and it would be a lie to say it hurts God. Why would it hurt God if you truly loved the person?
It's because it doesn't refer to it as an "abomination" o(tow'ebah). It just says: 6 " 'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD..Scriptural slavery in many ways sounds much better than capitalism.
capitalism is not all that far removed from serfdom, other than it gives those that are subject to others the illusion of freedom
I may have to do some research on it to elaborate fullybut thats another topic altogether
and I repeat about you reply to incest is it in this particular thread?
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