homosexuality

[GreenEyedLady]

It doesn't matter who does what when OR if you are single or not. You are still sinning against the Lord if you are single and you LUST after another woman...especially if you don't know if she is married. You committ adultry in your heart.
Also...the thought of Lusting after one...can lead to fornication of the heart which is also a sin.
The point is that these gays who are given children is just plain WRONG.
Not only does it provide a sinnful enviroment for the child, but the child also grows up with distorted morals.
Why would they NOT concider an alcholic as a parent? Or a murderer...How about a pedifile?????
ITs the same thing...they are all people living their lives in sin.
Regarless of how hard we try to live our lives for the Lord..we will always be sinners. Even if all you do is tell a little lie..you still need a saviour.
So, in my thoughts, it doesn't matter what kind of sin it is....it is still a sin
GEL

 

[sn00zles]

Homosexuality is sinful
Homosexual tendencies are sinful

Is it the choice of some that they have homosexual tendencies?  Is it anyone's choice that we continue sinning despite knowing the words of God?

No, I believe some people were born with homosexual tendencies.  If not, they were placed in situations in which they had no control (sexual abuse while young etc), and those experiences formed their homosexual tendencies. 

Just remember that Jesus washes away all our sins when we accept him as Lord and saviour in our lives.  But Jesus doesn't take away our humanity.  We are still fallen, and we will continue to sin, like Israel, despite hearing the word of God, and having God's laws written on our hearts. 

Our humanity is NOT a choice.  But is it sinful? YES
Homosexual tendencies, humanity for some people... was not a choice.  How then is their humanity less natural than the humanity of heterosexuals?  We all struggle with different things (some of us struggle on accepting our christian brothers/sisters) .  Are we all any less sinful?  NO. 

There is no such thing as 'natural' or 'unnatural' sin.  The acts might be 'unnatural' in that God didn't mean for men to copulate with other men, but God didn't intend for us to murder and steal either. 

It's like making a distinction between 'good' and 'bad' sin.   It's like making a distinction between who's less worthy (and thus who's more worthy) before God, because some people have the more 'natural' sin. 

 

 

[LouisBooth]

"The distinction between "natural" sin and "unnatural" sin is yours alone."

LOL, no no, you miss the point. I'm not making a distinction between sin but showing you how it is sin because it is totally unnatural.


"I figure, if God can do something "unnatural", then unnatural does not imply sinful.
"

God doesn't do anything unnatural, he didn't make anyone a homosexual seebs, they choose to be that way.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Originally posted by LouisBooth
"The distinction between "natural" sin and "unnatural" sin is yours alone."

LOL, no no, you miss the point. I'm not making a distinction between sin but showing you how it is sin because it is totally unnatural.

You are saying that an attraction to one sin is sinful and an attraction to another sin is not sinful. This is a distinction between sin. This shouldn't be difficult.

 

[LouisBooth]

"You are saying that an attraction to one sin is sinful and an attraction to another sin is not sinful. "

Exactly, because God made one to be right and the other to be sinful. That's the distinction between sin and nonsin. Christ made that same distinction.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Originally posted by LouisBooth
"You are saying that an attraction to one sin is sinful and an attraction to another sin is not sinful. "

Exactly, because God made one to be right and the other to be sinful. That's the distinction between sin and nonsin. Christ made that same distinction.

No, you are making a distinction between sin A and sin B. Essentially, you are saying that the sermon on the mount only applies to "unnatural" sins despite Jesus' inclusion of all sin. Attraction and temptation are either always sinful or always not. You can't pick and choose just so that you can call someone else's attractions sinful without applying the same standard to yourself. Just remember, by the standard by which you judge, you will be judged.

 

[SUNSTONE]

Temptation is not sin.
Jesus said if you lust after a women, then you have commited adultery in your heart. He was talking about a married person, or if you lust after a married person.
Remember Jesus was tempted in every way we were, but without sin.

[But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.] James 1:14+15

A wise man will not allow himself to dwell on lust, but he will dwell on the things from above.Whatever the head does, the body will follow.
Look at my sig below on sin and how you must master it. The war is won or lost in the thoughts, you have control and free will to do something about it. The wise thing to do is to submit unto God and resist the devil.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

Originally posted by SUNSTONE
Temptation is not sin.
Jesus said if you lust after a women, then you have commited adultery in your heart. He was talking about a married person, or if you lust after a married person.
Remember Jesus was tempted in every way we were, but without sin.

[But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.] James 1:14+15

A wise man will not allow himself to dwell on lust, but he will dwell on the things from above.Whatever the head does, the body will follow.
Look at my sig below on sin and how you must master it. The war is won or lost in the thoughts, you have control and free will to do something about it. The wise thing to do is to submit unto God and resist the devil.

Thanks for stopping in.

 

[LouisBooth]

"You can't pick and choose just so that you can call someone else's attractions sinful without applying the same standard to yourself"

wrong again if god strikes someone down and kills them, it is a right action. If you go and kill someone for no reason its a wrong action. The seperation here is not between sins, its determining if it IS a sin or not.

"Just remember, by the standard by which you judge, you will be judged."

I know this, and thus why I judge by the standard of righteousness of the bible, which has been attributed to me through christ Great point though.

to sum up..Homosexuality is unnatural, and thus wrong, sinful, and its a choice

 

[happy]

Homosexuality is a choice. We are not born that way. We are made in the image of God. And to say that we are born that way, then God must be a homosexual too. I once chose that lifestyle and when I accepted Jesus in my heart that gay lifestyle had to go. Yes I was stubborn and it was difficult but it was not impossible

 

[Blindfaith]

Welcome happy to the forums!!  I see you're pretty new here, and I hope you'll be posting often!!

I'll throw some blessings your way to help you get started.

Check out the different rooms around here ~ there's something for everyone.

If you have any questions, just pm me.

btw...good post!

~Peace in Christ,

Terri

 

[happy]

I was a homosexual before I became saved.  I was pretty much happy without God at the time.  From my experience, being gay was one of things that had to go in order for me to begin to experience God.  I took the person that was witnessing to me away from God and led her into a homosexual lifestyle which lasted for about 1 year.  In that time, there was a lot of lying and backsliding.  Some one  must have been praying for her and I because I woke up one morning with a guilty conscience and I felt ashamed.  How could have I taken a child away from God?  In the end result hers and mine friendship almost ruined.  I honestly believe that what we had done opened the door for the devil.  It was really hard for me to turn away from her, not to lust after her but not impossible.  I did a WHOLE heck of a lot of crying and arguing with GOD, yelling and screaming at GOD.  But turning from that lifestyle was a good thing.  When God closes one door He opens another.  To this day I still struggle with homosexual feelings even though I am saved, the devil knows what buttons to press, I just pray about it and they go away.  They get less and less each time.  I