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Hi Guys! Have any of you had, or are planning for a home birth? Or if you can't do a home birth, a birthing room at a hospitol that is as close to home as you can get it?

That is what I want for my baby, but my dad and his side of the family are telling me I am crazy. They are trying to pressure me into having and epidural and an episiotomy and all of the new modern medical marvels that you can do. They want me to jsut breastfeed for the first month, then suppliment formula and all this stuff so I can be "my own woman"

What do I tell them other then that is not what I want? They keep telling me I will change my mind when the time comes around. How do I deal with this?
 

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I didn't and won't have a home birth, but you should do what you feel is best for you. Do you have any idea why your family feels so strongly? I would just let them know that you have researched all your options and feel like a home birth is the way you want to go. Tell them as politely as possible that if they can't support your decision then you would appreciate it if they'd keep their opinions to themsleves.
 
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AmyR00 said:
You are the one who is having the baby, so you should be the one making the decision. Whatever you decide, please make sure that you all the information you need. If you are really interested in a home birth, I would check out a Bradley Class.

We are going to. :) The website reccoemnds starting it around week 28, but I think we may start around week 20, just because the class is a good 45 minutes away, and I dont want to be driving to it whne I have a gigantic redy to pop belly.

I am so excite for badley classes! All of my friends took them and said they were the best!
 
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CarrieAg93 said:
I didn't and won't have a home birth, but you should do what you feel is best for you. Do you have any idea why your family feels so strongly? I would just let them know that you have researched all your options and feel like a home birth is the way you want to go. Tell them as politely as possible that if they can't support your decision then you would appreciate it if they'd keep their opinions to themsleves.

I have NO IDEA why they feel so strongly. They havnt mentioned ANYTHING about the safetey of the baby, what if something happens, etc. they seem more concerned about what their friends will think, and how easy I will buckle under pain. My mom is like "OUr Daughter is stong and beaitiful! I know she can do it!" and my dad is like "You are going to take drugs even if you say you dont want them now, You are gonna split open in half because you didnt wantt he episiotmy, and then you will be sorry!!"

No mention yet on the baby, just their trust in my ability to do it. I thikn they might be worried what their friends will say about me if they see me breastfeeding in a public place or learning that I had my baby at home. It is virtually unheard of here, accept for at rehab centers (where most moms chose to birth at the center).

We live fairly close to the hospital, so I already have my backup plan ready! I have been mapping and planing this out since before I even got married. :blush:
 
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I discovered with my first that not only was I a terrible person (let my DH keep his hair long) I was going to be a terrible mother according to the ILS, they wern't as vocal as they could be (Thank you God!) but they were pretty against everything, from no meds (they figured I would change my mind and all that) to breastfeeding (again figured I would just change my mind) to homeschooling (figured I was just crazy) oh and the most recent assumption, I have 2, and this one has to be an oops and of course I will stop right?

Start now with doing it your way, and work on getting that skin thicker. Do you have a DH? if so stick him in charge of reminding them they had their chance now it is your turn, if they did a good job, you will too :). You have too much to worry about right now to have to worry about educating the family too.

I would love to have a homebirth, but I had two already, I know what to expect from my particular body. You might try a birthing center as a middle ground, just in case. But if not be greatful you live in a state where home birthing is legal (in NC it is only partially legal, and not covered by insurance very well :(.)

IMO drugs are overused, you might change your mind but don't do it cause of or inspite of your Dad, just get someone to tell him how rude he is being to assume you can't do it.

again IMO episiotamies are a case by case thing, you won't know how wide you will stretch till you have a head inches form delivery, your midwife or doc will know though. (and I do think an experienced professional is a must, home or at a center or hospital) I didn't get one but got stiches from tearing both times, no big.

(heh yet again)IMO breast feeding is healthiest, if they would rather put their friends opinions ahead of their grandkids health than they can take their opinion and stuff it. Sorry that is a bit rude, but I really don't understand why anyone would want less than the best when the best is easy! Now if you have a medical issue and cannot no big, it happens, better formula than starvation. But if you use a bottle for convenience or for appeasing other people then you are missing the most important part of having a kid, it is all about whats best for the baby not GPA, or GMA. (don't take that as in mom never gets time for her! Just that Baby first, then Mom then Dad, then the rest of the world :).)
 
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I've had four homebirths and am planning to have this next one at home also. I absolutely love having homebirths. There is something so calming about staying in your own space when you are in labor. Then after the birth, there is no need to worry about hospital policies, and when you need to go home. You can just curl up in your own bed with the new baby. :) Okay, so thats my plug for homebirth.

Now, on the practical side. I think every woman, whether considering homebirth or not, needs to really know about birth. If you learn as much as you can during your pregnancy, you will be much better equiped to deal with anything that comes up. This is doubly important in a homebirth.

I have found, in my researching, that homebirth with a good attendent, is very safe. Most midwives will err on the side of caution. They work very hard to prevent problems, rather than just fix things that come up.

As you can tell, I am very pro homebirth. While I realize that there are definetely times that medical care is needed in birth, it is much less often than most people think.
 
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I recommend birthing rooms which is sort of what I had. I had to have a c-section but the birthing room was wonderful and I was allowed to stay in it for almost a week.

We had a gal near us die during a homebirth and she was really close to the hospital too. The midwife just didn't foresee the complications and the family was told later that if she'd been in the hospital she would have been saved. My son was an NICU baby so I was very thankful to have specialists immediately with him at birth. Just something to keep in mind. Not every birth is perfect and sometimes it takes just moments to determine if your baby (or you) will be okay or not.
 
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In my opinion, being at the hospital is not about getting pain killers or episiotomies, its about SAFETY. If something goes wrong and an emergency c-section is needed, the baby could die in transit to the hospital. All sorts of things could go wrong and wouldn't it better to go wrong in a hospital where you can get the help you need immediately? Like Blue said, all this time is spent going to the hospital when you could be there to begin with. I think having a painkiller free birth is commendable, as is breastfeeding, but I hope you will at least give birth at the hospital for you and the baby's safety.

You can get your own birthing room and its just you and whoever you want there. I found it to be a great experience and you know what else is great? I didn't have to worry about the laundry created. When I needed help with breastfeeding, I could call a nurse into the room(and I did, many times) and get help at any time of night. I had a bed that inclined which helped me sit up and YES that was very difficult after birth. And when blood got on the bathroom floor, and it did..... I wasn't the one cleaning the bathroom. Sorry for the gorey details but you gotta know what to expect!

By the way, I was going to breasfeed, that is all we planned, but as things go we ended up having to switch to formula. Breastfeeding can be quite a challenge, and many who give it up these days actually wanted to breastfeed but then something happened. When we had to switch we only had a sample can of formula and three bottles around the house. So just be aware of the challenges of breastfeeding and avoid looking down on those of us who did formula in the end.

Oh and take a class on birthing naturally. I took a birthing class that covered both pain free and pain killers so I was ready all around. :cool:
 
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Snarfy - Educate yourself completely. The facts are that homebirth is as safe if not safer than hospital birth. Many people do not understand the immense benefits of homebirth, and it is natural for people who care about you and the baby to object, thinking that they have your best interests in mind.

I suggest getting your hands on books by people like Henci Goer and Ina May Gastin if you haven't already. They lay the statistics out plain as day. If you know why you want a homebirth and you know the proven benefits and safety of it, you should be able to at least put their minds at rest. They may not agree with you, but if you are equipped with the facts and this is what you want - don't let other people dissuade you based on misinformation and fear.

How far along are you? Do you have a supportive midwife?
 
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I had all three of my children with the same midwife. The first was a homebirth, the last two were at her birthing center. I took Bradley classes, read about 15 books with opinions on both sides, and I felt that a natural birth was the best choice for me, and my baby. My family called me everything from crazy, to down right stupid. In the end, I knew I had made an informed decision.
The two books that really solidified my decision were "The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth" by Henci Goer, and "Natural Childbirth the Bradley Way" by Susan Huchenson.

In response to the safety thing, if you have a competent midwife, safety is her first concern. Period. Irreversible, life threatening complications arise in hospitals everyday. Even some hospital interventions cause major complications.

Most midwives work closely with an MD that gives the mother the go ahead. Dr's determine this by preexisting conditions, prenatal conditions, and the like. If a woman is given the go ahead by an MD, then the odds of something happening beyond the midwifes control are slim. Midwives are trained to deal with complications that arise such as prolapsed cord, hemmorage, shoulder dystocia, cord wrapped around the babys neck too tightly, meconium in the amniotic fluid,..... you get the idea.

Don't let the nay sayers get you down. Just be determined to educate yourself. Take care, and God Bless.

Elaine
 
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jazzbird said:
Snarfy - Educate yourself completely. The facts are that homebirth is as safe if not safer than hospital birth. Many people do not understand the immense benefits of homebirth, and it is natural for people who care about you and the baby to object, thinking that they have your best interests in mind.

I suggest getting your hands on books by people like Henci Goer and Ina May Gastin if you haven't already. They lay the statistics out plain as day. If you know why you want a homebirth and you know the proven benefits and safety of it, you should be able to at least put their minds at rest. They may not agree with you, but if you are equipped with the facts and this is what you want - don't let other people dissuade you based on misinformation and fear.

How far along are you? Do you have a supportive midwife?

I just saw your post. God Bless you!
 
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jazzbird said:
Snarfy - Educate yourself completely. The facts are that homebirth is as safe if not safer than hospital birth. Many people do not understand the immense benefits of homebirth, and it is natural for people who care about you and the baby to object, thinking that they have your best interests in mind.

I suggest getting your hands on books by people like Henci Goer and Ina May Gastin if you haven't already. They lay the statistics out plain as day. If you know why you want a homebirth and you know the proven benefits and safety of it, you should be able to at least put their minds at rest. They may not agree with you, but if you are equipped with the facts and this is what you want - don't let other people dissuade you based on misinformation and fear.

How far along are you? Do you have a supportive midwife?

-I- am fine with the homebirth, want one, have wanted one all along. It is my family who is having the problem. No matter how many statistics or articles or books or pamphlets I show them, they still think I am an idiot for wanting it. They kinda cornered me into seeing a doctor, so that is who i am going to for now jsut to make sure eveything is okay while I am on an unending search for a good midwife in my area. There is one great one we found, but she pretty such stays at the center she works at (a rehab clinic) But my mom who is friends with her is talking to her. I am 15 weeks and a few days right now and doing good!
 
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Snarfy-- it is not fun when family doesn't agree with you. I remember when I was pregnant every time I got on a chair to reach something high, or I picked up something slightly heavy, my MIL was all in a panic. I asked her, what do you think I will do next time I am pregnant and I have a toddler??? Still I received those gasps until the end. Everytime I drank a pop or had a fast food craving there were old ladies around to glare at me evilly. After the baby is born, then people at the supermarket want to tell you how to take care of the baby. One time at a restaurant, David was crying, and a lady came up and told me about colic and what to do (I already knew). So yeah there's no hope.... :D Parenting in public is challenging.

Oh and by the way, my in laws didn't say anything outright but they thought it was odd I wanted to breastfeed. When our(yours and mine) parents were giving birth it was popular to formula feed. For our generation breastfeeding is back to the popular way to feed baby, so tell your parents you won't be unusual or embarrassing.

jazzbird said:
The facts are that homebirth is as safe if not safer than hospital birth. Many people do not understand the immense benefits of homebirth, and it is natural for people who care about you and the baby to object, thinking that they have your best interests in mind.

I will gladly change my mind if I am wrong. I have been wrong before. How is homebirth as safe if not safer than hospital birth? :scratch: Sure, a majority of babies are born vaginally with no complications. But what about the minority? This is no small minority. It seems like a risky game to play with baby and mother's life. Example: A couple days ago a baby was born to a member of my church and that baby had inhaled his meconium and couldn't breathe. They had to pump his lungs and he is still in intensive care. What would have happened to that baby had he been born at home? He couldn't breathe, would he have died? What about the member of CF whose baby had low blood sugar and needed intensive care too? How would a homebirth have dealt with that? I would never forgive myself if something happened to my baby and I could have given him a better change at survival. So I am simply pointing that out.... how can I not? :help:
 
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Leanna said:
I will gladly change my mind if I am wrong. I have been wrong before. How is homebirth as safe if not safer than hospital birth? :scratch: Sure, a majority of babies are born vaginally with no complications. But what about the minority? This is no small minority. It seems like a risky game to play with baby and mother's life. Example: A couple days ago a baby was born to a member of my church and that baby had inhaled his meconium and couldn't breathe. They had to pump his lungs and he is still in intensive care. What would have happened to that baby had he been born at home? He couldn't breathe, would he have died? What about the member of CF whose baby had low blood sugar and needed intensive care too? How would a homebirth have dealt with that? I would never forgive myself if something happened to my baby and I could have given him a better change at survival. So I am simply pointing that out.... how can I not? :help:

That's a good question and I'll try to answer it. A good midwife is very highly trained and would have recognized the dangers in this situation. When she saw the meconium in the amniotic fluid, she would have called 911, or taken the patient to the ER. Many problems in childbirth can be anticipated if the mother has had the proper care and attention.

That being said, I personally am not comfortable with having a home birth. Like most medical situations there is a risk-benefit factor to be weighed and everyone will evaluate that differently. With our first child, my husband would have really liked to have had a home birth. I did not. I ended up having a c-section after 20 hours of labor. While it was an emergency c-section, if we had been at home, there still would have been plenty of time to get to the hospital once the decision to do surgury was made without endangering me or the baby.
 
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Leanna, those are good questions. I know that to our modern way of thinking homebirth may seem counter-intuitive, but in my opinion, the facts bear out the truth. There is so much out there to support the legitimacy and benefits of homebirth. I'll just give a brief overview of why we have chosen homebirth for our future children.

As an aside, I think it is important to say that it is of the utmost importance for a woman to be flexible in her birthing plans. Women with high risk pregnancies should not deliver at home (and midwives won't do it). If a baby is breach, it may be a reason to decided to go to the hospital as a precaution. If the labor is simply too long and not progressing and it's just becoming unbearable, perhaps it would be better to move to the hospital. A woman should plan and prepare herself for the birth that she wants, but she also needs to realize that some things are out of her control and recognize that in some cases, the hospital environment will be in the best interest of her and her baby.

As far as the facts go:

*In the 20's birth started moving into the hospitals, and the death rate actually rose. Since that time a lot of things have contributed to safer birth - but it's not the hospital. Things like antibiotics, better nutrition and living conditions, blood transfusions, and child spacing had a large effect on greater safety in birth.

*There are 27 countries with lower infant death rates than ours. The countries that surpass us have high percentage of homebirth/nonintervention birth.

*No study has ever shown that homebirths result in worse outcomes than hospital provided that women had planned the birth at home and had been screened for risk factors. Planned home birth for low risk women in North America using certified professional midwives was associated with lower rates of medical intervention but similar intrapartum and neonatal mortality to that of low risk hospital births in the United States.

*Joseph C. Pearce states in his landmark book Evolution's End that homebirthed babies have a six to one better chance of survival than a hospital-birthed child.

*A study in the Netherlands done in 1986 on women who were having their first babies showed these results: out of 41,861 women who delivered in the hospital, the perinatal mortality rate was 20.2/1,000. Of 15,031 women who delivered at home with a trained midwife, the rate was 1.5/1,000 .

*Marsden Wagner, formerly of the World Health Organization, states that every country in the European Region that has infant mortality rates better than the US uses midwives as the principal and only attendant for at least 70% of the births. He also states that the countries with the lowest perinatal mortality rates in the world have cesarean section rates below 10%.

*A researcher from the University of Copenhagen, recently examined several studies of planned homebirth backed up by a modern hospital system compared with planned hospital birth. A total of nearly 25,000 births from five different countries were studied. There was no difference in survival rates between the babies born at home and those born in the hospital. However, there were several significant differences between the two groups. Fewer medical interventions occurred in the homebirth group. Fewer home-born babies were born in poor condition. The homebirth mothers were less likely to have suffered lacerations during birth. They were less likely to have had their labors induced or augmented by medications or to have had cesarean sections, forceps or vacuum extractor deliveries. As for maternal deaths, there were none in either group.

*Lewis Mehl did a study comparing home and hospital birth with mothers from California and Wisconsin with matched populations of 2,092 mothers for each group. Midwives and family doctors attended the homebirths; OB-GYNs and family doctors attended hospital births. Within the hospital group, the fetal distress rate was 6 times higher. Maternal hemorrhage was 3 times higher. Limp, unresponsive newborns arrived 3 times more often. Neonatal infections were 4 times as common. There were 30 permanent birth injuries caused by doctors.

*Dr. Mehl did another study comparing 1,046 home births with 1,046 hospital births. The groups were matched for age, risk factors, etc. There was no difference in infant mortality. None! However the hospital births caused more fetal distress, lacerations to the mother, neonatal infections and so on. There was a higher rate of forceps and C-section delivery and nine times as many episiotomies.

*(from: Home versus hospital deliveries: follow up study of matched pairs for procedures and outcome)

Neonatal Outcomes:

In the hospital, 3.7 times as many babies required resuscitation.
Infection rates of newborns were 4 times higher in the hospital.
There was 2.5 times as many cases of meconium aspiration pneumonia in the hospital group.
There were 6 cases of neonatal lungwater syndrome in the hospital and none at home.
There were 30 birth injuries (mostly due to forceps) in the hospital group, and none at home.
The incidence of respiratory distress among newborns was 17 times greater in the hospital than in the home.
While neonatal and perinatal death rates were statistically the same for both groups, Apgar scores (a measure of physical well being of the newborn) were significantly worse in the hospital.


Many hospital interventions actually cause further complications. So many people think, "Oh thank God she was in the hospital so she could have that c-section" when in actuality the c-section became a necessity because of a previous intervention such as an epi or induction. We think that hosptals save us from all these horrible things, when in reality a lot of times they cause one problem and then have to fix it with another invasive procedure.

I am a strong believer in the power and natural workings of our bodies. God created us so marvelously. He created our bodies to work. Women have been giving birth naturally in the attendance of women for 1,000's of years. Our modern society has come to rely so much on technology. We believe that our doctors hold all the answers and have made us safe when that is so far from the truth. I am not saying that there are not good doctors out there. There are doctors who are concerned about the overall well-being of their patients and who are aware of the detrimental affects of hospital interventions.

I think it really just comes down to personal preference. It is a proven fact that homebirth is safe. We have chosen homebirth because it is person centered and provides much more emotional and physical comfort than a hospital. I huge factor in the outcome of a birth is a woman's ability to relax. I know that I would not feel comfortable in a hospital. I do not want to be in a foreign and sterile environment. I want to be someplace familiar and safe - a place I can naturally relax in with people that will care for me (not just my body) and comfort me. I want to be someplace where I am free to walk around, eat, drink sit in a tub, do whatever I feel like doing to help me progress.

I can understand that a lot of women just feel safer in a hospital, and I think that is fine. I just think it is important to know the truth and to be confident and comfortable with your decision.


http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/archive/7068pr4.htm
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/330/7505/1416
http://www.ub2b.com/AtHome/HomeBirth.html
http://www.gentlebirth.org/ronnie/homesafe.html

And from books:
The Thinking Woman's Guide To A Better Birth
Ina May's Guide To Childbirth
Monther's Intention: How Belief Shapes Birth
 
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Please don't take this personally, but I have some questions and observations.

jazzbird said:
As an aside, I think it is important to say that it is of the utmost importance for a woman to be flexible in her birthing plans. Women with high risk pregnancies should not deliver at home (and midwives won't do it). If a baby is breach, it may be a reason to decided to go to the hospital as a precaution. If the labor is simply too long and not progressing and it's just becoming unbearable, perhaps it would be better to move to the hospital. A woman should plan and prepare herself for the birth that she wants, but she also needs to realize that some things are out of her control and recognize that in some cases, the hospital environment will be in the best interest of her and her baby.

That's good to know.

*In the 20's birth started moving into the hospitals, and the death rate actually rose. Since that time a lot of things have contributed to safer birth - but it's not the hospital. Things like antibiotics, better nutrition and living conditions, blood transfusions, and child spacing had a large effect on greater safety in birth.

Yeah I agree. :cool:

*There are 27 countries with lower infant death rates than ours. The countries that surpass us have high percentage of homebirth/nonintervention birth.

This one I don't buy because of the vast amount of variables that can't be measured. For example, who is to say that the infant who dies here in the US would not have died before birth in another country?-- that the reason they died is because we did try to save them rather than let them miscarry and not everything in baby developed enough to handle life? (My SIL's baby is one such case of a baby that would have miscarried if it werent for US science) Co-sleeping, wearing your baby, constant touch, (larger amoung of siblings constantly holding baby), these are all proven to decrease infant death rates, so it could be those variables rather than home birth.
*No study has ever shown that homebirths result in worse outcomes than hospital provided that women had planned the birth at home and had been screened for risk factors. Planned home birth for low risk women in North America using certified professional midwives was associated with lower rates of medical intervention but similar intrapartum and neonatal mortality to that of low risk hospital births in the United States.

Okay so this leads to another question. I did not *choose* to get an episiotomy. Unfortunately my baby chose it for me by tearing his way into the world. Maybe if I could have "held" it at the right moment it could have been avoided but its really hard not to push when you really want to, FYI. So sometimes episiotomies happen naturally, do midwives do stitches? I wouldn't be surprised if I got an episiotomy naturally next time too, I am not really built for big babies. I'm kinda little. :o But I'll try to hold. ;)

*Joseph C. Pearce states in his landmark book Evolution's End that homebirthed babies have a six to one better chance of survival than a hospital-birthed child.

But anyone can write a book and make a statement. I mean who is this guy and why should I believe his opinion? That's a pretty big claim to make without some really big studies to back it up.

*A study in the Netherlands done in 1986 on women who were having their first babies showed these results: out of 41,861 women who delivered in the hospital, the perinatal mortality rate was 20.2/1,000. Of 15,031 women who delivered at home with a trained midwife, the rate was 1.5/1,000 .

What is perinatal? right after birth? Why do you think that is? Do you think that it is because of your first bit of information, babies with known complicatons the midwives will not deliver at home? Because the ones that need extra help beforehand give birth in the hospital? What do you think the reason is? I can't say what it was like in the Netherlands in the 80's. I don't think our infant mortality is that high. 20/1000? I don't think so.

*Marsden Wagner, formerly of the World Health Organization, states that every country in the European Region that has infant mortality rates better than the US uses midwives as the principal and only attendant for at least 70% of the births. He also states that the countries with the lowest perinatal mortality rates in the world have cesarean section rates below 10%.

Well I probably shouldnt have gone through all of these, so I think I will stop after this one. Otherwise I will be here all day. :p But again, I feel that there are a lot of variables to take into account. Yes I am an analytical person and I like to be exact. Like, in this quote it says "midwives" not home births, and midwives can do their thing anywhere including in a hospital. So really it makes no difference to home birth. Also, if there are lower infant mortality rates in Europe we must ask why and not point it right away to one reason. I mean what about what I mentioned earlier about it possibly being because here in the US we are trying a lot harder to save the unborn than in Europe. But those same babies saved before birth after birth aren't prepared to cope so they die anyway. I would be interested to hear some statistics on how many miscarriages after week 20 occur in these same countries verses here. I bet they have a higher miscarriage rate. In case I didn't explain clear, here is another way: have you considered that possibly the reason their post birth mortality rates are lower is because many more of them die before birth? Or in cases where c section is not available, possibly both mother and kids died. Also some premies are delivered through c section.... again this points to me that maybe their babies just die inutero.

So in conclusion.... now I feel like if others want to do it, I can understand. Now I know that the midwives are smart and will get the mothers to the hospital if they dont have the equipment to deal with whatever. I am still concerned about the baby with meconium though. Its a risk. I still feel the facts are a little spotty at best. All of the facts I read could be any number of factors and yet they are all contributed to home birth. Good science can speculate but not draw conclusions like that.... it could be so many different reasons. In my Child Psych class they are talking about that, all of the possible reasons why something might be true. It is pretty hard to speculate on some things.
 
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Regarding the episiotomy, yes, a midwife can stitch you up and I'm pretty sure they can perform an episiotomy, if deemed necessary. They also know many strategies to help avoid tearing and/or cutting, such as perineal message and stretching exercises.
 
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The reason I am against hospital birth for a normal delivery is because of what I saw when my sister gave birth to her first child.
She was induced with pitocin, which in turn started a whole chain of events that she was not ready for. In the first place, she was told numerous times that induced labor was just the same as regular labor. Then after suffering through about four hours of pitocin induced contractions, she was told that nobody can go through an induction without an epidural. (She had wanted a med free birth) So, of course at that point she got the epidural. Since her cervix was not anywhere near ready, the pitocin kept getting turned up. Her blood pressure dropped, which caused the baby to recieve less oxygen. So, to combat that she was put on oxygen. After about 14 hrs. the baby was born. This is where I was in shock. After having two children myself I thought I knew what a normal newborn acted like. This baby came out limp, grey, and not crying. He was suctioned for a while and proceeded to make small noises. My sister was concerned and asked what was wrong. She was told that he was perfectly fine. The baby then received apgar scores of something like 7 and 8, which was absolutely ridiculous. My mother and I were both apalled that this was considered a normal birth. A friend who worked as a nurse in OB for about 10 years was there also and felt like the baby had acted very normal, also.
My sister had her next 3 in a freestanding birth center with no interventions. She also feels like hospital birth increases your chances of having something go wrong because of all the interventions.
I'm not trying to bash doctors, but there is a big problem when this is considered normal. Then we hear all about how dangerous homebirth is when in reality many, many problems are caused by needless intervention.

Okay, getting off soapbox. :)

Okay so this leads to another question. I did not *choose* to get an episiotomy. Unfortunately my baby chose it for me by tearing his way into the world. Maybe if I could have "held" it at the right moment it could have been avoided but its really hard not to push when you really want to, FYI. So sometimes episiotomies happen naturally, do midwives do stitches? I wouldn't be surprised if I got an episiotomy naturally next time too, I am not really built for big babies. I'm kinda little. :o But I'll try to hold. ;)

Yes, many midwives can do stitches, if necessary.
 
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