Holy Ghost Manifestations

[Father Rick]

You might consider me a blabber mouth, it does not bother me. But niether do I consider anyone on this thread swine. They may not understand it, or agree with it. But I do not consider sharing the Glory of the Lord when asked, to be something that I would want to hide..I am not ashamed of his manifestations or anything about Him.



What did Jesus say, "what ever you hear in the ear, shout it from the rooftops!

Trish..

I was speaking in generalities, not aiming that comment at you in particular.

And it is true that Jesus said to 'shout it from the rooftops' concerning the truth that He is the Messiah, the Christ. You will also notice that frequently when there was a major manifestation (such as the deliverance of the demoniac of Gaderenes) Jesus said to 'tell no one'. When the disciples were all worked up over their being able to cast out devils, Jesus quickly reigned them in. Paul, when speaking of being 'caught up into the third heaven', clearly did so very reluctantly-- even referring to himself in third person.

As I said in my previous post, I have no problem with sharing various experiences/manifestations that one has received from God. I do, however, think there is something wrong with sharing things recklessly. I put high value on those 'special' encounters that I have had with God. I guess I liken it to a woman owning an extremely valuable diamond necklace. Would she wear it everyday (even running to the market in sweatclothes) and flaunt it because she has it-- or would it be reserved for the 'right' occasions to take out and wear.

 

[AudioArtist]

btw...What I said wasn't aimed at anyone at this thread. I was just saying that because I view the attitude of many Christians (of cessationism) a lot more alarming then the other things brought up here. I know what I said applies to nobody here-this is the charismatic forum.

Oh, and keep sharing! Hearing of others' experiences in the Spirit really helps my (waning) faith.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Oh, and keep sharing! Hearing of others' experiences in the Spirit really helps my (waning) faith.

Waning? Nonsense!

Your faith is growing, that's why it's hungry for more!

God bless, love Sue

 

[JimB]

Trish..

I was speaking in generalities, not aiming that comment at you in particular.

And it is true that Jesus said to 'shout it from the rooftops' concerning the truth that He is the Messiah, the Christ. You will also notice that frequently when there was a major manifestation (such as the deliverance of the demoniac of Gaderenes) Jesus said to 'tell no one'. When the disciples were all worked up over their being able to cast out devils, Jesus quickly reigned them in. Paul, when speaking of being 'caught up into the third heaven', clearly did so very reluctantly-- even referring to himself in third person.

As I said in my previous post, I have no problem with sharing various experiences/manifestations that one has received from God. I do, however, think there is something wrong with sharing things recklessly. I put high value on those 'special' encounters that I have had with God. I guess I liken it to a woman owning an extremely valuable diamond necklace. Would she wear it everyday (even running to the market in sweatclothes) and flaunt it because she has it-- or would it be reserved for the 'right' occasions to take out and wear.

Thanx Rick. You are so wise in saying this.

\o/

 

[lunalinda]

Hmmm, teeth chattering and shaking for me. I can't say I felt overwhelmed with peace or anything else from it all, but...I certainly moved around a lot slower than normal, like there was this "heaviness" over me that I didn't want to walk around carelessly with, getting myself dizzy in the process. There was just something over me, but nothing that dominated me. It was actually a rather "gentle" experience. Sort of like a, "I'm here right next to you, Linda, holding your hand," instead of a "WHAM! HERE I AM!" Still, I just sat down to be "safe," because I was moving around so slowly. But I still remember trembling a bit even while sitting down. It was odd, but neat at the same time.

 

[habeas]

Habeas...

I'm right there with you. It's been my experience that God doesn't whisper the secrets of the kingdom to blabber mouths...

Jesus told his disciples "don't cast your pearls before swine."

I believe there is a time and a place to share our experiences in Christ and some of the various manifestations of the Spirit that occur in our time with Him, but there are many things that I keep to myself and don't share unless I specifically feel it is important.

Thank you for this response. From what has been discussed, I gather we should be selective in sharing and remain silent about certain works of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

Healings, prophesies and manifestations where God chooses to make His presence known outwardly are meant to be public, whereas other experiences we keep to ourselves undisclosed.

 

[Trish1947]

Father Rick....As I said in my previous post, I have no problem with sharing various experiences/manifestations that one has received from God. I do, however, think there is something wrong with sharing things recklessly. I put high value on those 'special' encounters that I have had with God. I guess I liken it to a woman owning an extremely valuable diamond necklace. Would she wear it everyday (even running to the market in sweatclothes) and flaunt it because she has it

I posted what happened to me when I was filled with the Holy Spirit. I don't look at this as a secretive thing, since 3000 people were out in the streets of Jerusalem one day, making quite a scene. Nothin private about that.

Yes, I agree there are some manifestations that I believe are for that person only, and I don't feel that I need to share them. Thanks for making yourself more clear.
Me...Yeah, I'm one of these people, that wears my pearls with levis. .. Not to flaunt, but this thread wanted to share.

 

[JimB]

The problem with telling your “experiences”, revelations, manifestations, etc. is I think because it engenders spiritual pride, causing us to think we are more spiritual because of the abundance of our revelations than those who do not receive them. At least that’s the way Paul interpreted his visions in 2 Corinthians 12 (read this):

1 It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5 Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities. 6 For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool; for I will speak the truth. But I refrain, lest anyone should think of me above what he sees me to be or hears from me.

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 11 I have become a fool in boasting …




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I have always thought that some people require visions and dreams and revelations because they have not learned to walk by faith. They need something more tangible (of more substance) than faith to get them to the next level. It certainly is not always a mark of spiritual strength or sharpness.
IMO

\o/

 

[Trish1947]

Jim M.... I have always thought that some people require visions and dreams and revelations because they have not learned to walk by faith. They need something more tangible (of more substance) than faith to get them to the next level. It certainly is not always a mark of spiritual strength or sharpness.
IMO

You find this in more new Christians than you do in us oldies. If I had to live on experiances, I would have failed in my Christian walk totally. Because maifestations does not build faith.. the word does. Manifestations would not be enough to promote growth during the testings, or maturity. But I'm on a foum with alot of young people that want to share. And I see nothing wrong with that. Thats where they are right now. And when we come to the point in our lives, that God isn't exciting enough to share His benefits, there is something out of whack.

 

[ThatHillisonFire]

I start to shine - visibly shine with an increasing intensity.

 

[JimB]

I start to shine - visibly shine with an increasing intensity.

You glow in the dark!?!

\o/

 

[AudioArtist]

I start to shine - visibly shine with an increasing intensity.

My grandmother had an experience of that.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Lord open our eyes!
We will see our brothers and sisters - shining like stars as we all hold out the word of life!

 

[kooolfriend]

Once the anointing was so strong in the church, that you literally feel His presence and I had like as if an electricity bolt hit on me and I went flat on the floor with nobody hands laid on me. It happens to many in the church on that day.

 

[ThatHillisonFire]

You glow in the dark!?!

\o/

Yes Jim, I glow in the dark, I shine with the intensity of a star in this present darkness and I am illuminated, but not as You presently choose to understand it.

 

[clareos86]

I have always thought that some people require visions and dreams and revelations because they have not learned to walk by faith. They need something more tangible (of more substance) than faith to get them to the next level. It certainly is not always a mark of spiritual strength or sharpness.

Jim,

What an opinion! I agree! Please no one take this the wrong way, of course it is possible (even probable) for someone strong in their faith to experience the Holy Spirit. However, what you siad really struck a chord with me.
I became a Christian a year ago and during my first year really struggled with how to walk with God. I found it impossible to pray. I felt so alone and really wished for God to show me that He was there.
I went to Soul Survivor UK in August. This is where I became a Christian last year. For the two weeks I was there I was filled with the Spirit in so many ways!! I learned how to pray, I laughed, cried, spoke in tongues, received visions/prophesies from others, was given words of encouragement for others, my hands were annointed with oil..it was amazing!
I know that so many thigns happened to me because I needed some form of physical sign from God. It was very much a faith-affirming experience. However, there was more to it than that. I am now much stronger in my faith. I continue to speak in tongues and feel my hands being annointed in my own personal prayer. I also know that this was for a reason. I now spread God's word as much as possible and know that God will use me to bring more to Him! Isn't that so exciting!! Praise God for His great works
Clare