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Photini

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I found this on www.orthodoxinfo.com It has not ocurred to me to ask "why" I should not partake of Holy Communion during that time.



Menstruation, Emissions, and Holy Communion

According to the Canons, though a woman is not in any manner more sinful in her cycle than a man is in the case of involuntary bodily emissions, she, like the man, must avoid Holy Communion at this time. These bodily functions are not sins, but they represent and emphasize the consequences of our fallen states. In approaching Holy Communion, we are lifting our fallen selves in the greatest humility to commune with what we are in Christ: literal participants in the Divine. We thus approach Christ as clean vessels—to the greatest possible extent for us in our fallen state—, that He might come into us and transform us. Being holy, He comes only to those who strive to holiness. He cannot enter into that which is evil without destroying it. The Eucharist, hence, is the fire that cleanses, for those well prepared, and the fire that burns, for those not prepared. As St. John Chrysostomos writes, "This is a great and wonderful thing, so that if you approach it with pureness, you approach for salvation; but if you do so with an evil conscience, it is for punishment and vengeance."

In a homily on the Gospel of St. Matthew, St. John Chrysostomos does praise the great faith of the woman who had suffered hemorrhages (an "issue of blood") for some twelve years. He points out that Christ freed her both of her illness and of her guilt, which she had developed because of the Jewish idea that a woman with such an issue was unclean. We would ask readers to review this homily both in English and Greek. We do not think that there is a shred of evidence that St. John Chrysostomos is suggesting that women commune during their periods. We find no evidence that St. John Chrysostomos somehow stand against the advice given by spiritual Fathers and Mothers across the centuries, only now to be uncovered as incorrect and un-Patristic advice!

We must in general be careful about those who suddenly proclaim the awesome Mysteries to be a "privilege" easy to exercise. We favor frequent Communion because this is the consistent and dominant Patristic teaching. But we also insist on proper fasting and preparation on the days before Communion and the utmost cleanliness of mind and body, which things are equally consistent and dominant in the teachings of the Fathers. I would wonder what woman would actually want to commune during her period, or what man would wish to do the same after a bodily emission. Where is the fear of God? Where is the sobriety? More importantly, where is the humility?

In an article to be published this year in The Greek Orthodox Theological Review, Bishop [now Archbishop] Chrysostomos writes some words about preparation for Holy Communion that seem apropos of our discussion here. Let us cite these: "The Eucharist ... is fully understood only as we recognize its function as a weapon in the war against the world and our fallen natures. The Eucharist is the 'medicine of immortality,' as the Patristic texts so frequently call it, by which we cure ourselves of the fallen nature of sin and the instrument of spiritual restoration by which Christ, to quote St. Hesychios, 'will enlighten our mind ever more and cause it to shine like a star.' If Baptism introduces us to the struggle for the death of the flesh and union with God, it is the Eucharist which sustains us in this struggle. It is a direct participation in perfect manhood through the partaking of Christ, the Perfect God and Perfect Man. As St. John Chrysostomos tells us, we become 'His flesh and His bones.' And this oneness with Christ serves the function of moving us continually away from the world and mortal flesh to the 'life in Christ,' as Nicholas Kabasilas describes the sacramental life, and union with God begins here on earth. Knowing this to be the function of the Eucharist, contemporary misunderstandings of fasting and preparation for communion fade away. We come to understand, along with the great Abba Philemon (who, though a priest, dared only serve very infrequently at the Altar), that we should participate in the mystery of Christ only in a 'pure and chaste condition,' approaching the mystery 'free from the flesh' and 'free from all hesitation and doubt,' that we might wholly participate in 'the enlightenment that proceeds from it.' The whole of the spiritual life is one of attaining illumination and perfection, and the divine gift of the Eucharist comes to fulfill efforts toward purity in our daily lives and in our own human will. The Eucharist is a food for those who move toward the holy: 'Holy things for the holy,' as the Divine Liturgy says. It is death for those who fail to recognize its function. Fasting, abstinence from Holy Communion by women in their periods, abstinence by men polluted by nocturnal emissions—contemporary objections to these fade when we begin to grasp the true function of the Eucharist and its divine aid in our human efforts toward perfectionand our daily spiritual struggle with the world and its evil. The ascent toward perfection is centered in the Eucharist and we appropriately approach it as something which functions in concord with our highest human goals, aims, and efforts."

Orthodox Tradition Vol. IV, No. 1
 
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Colabomb said:
Is this Orthodox Dogma?

I don't believe it is.

Is the site you mentioned Authoritative?

No.

It does contain useful information but is not a substitute for pastoral guidance by ones father/confessor. As I recall, some of the articles on that site can get a bit hyper-Traditional.
 
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No it's not authoritative. There are Canons in place, I believe, which forbid women from partaking at that time, and also men after any emission of fluid. But we must listen to our spiritual father or parish priest about these matters. Each of us has a unique situation that we live in and have been brought up in. I posted that article because I think it gives a good explanation of the mindset. Maybe I was wrong.
 
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This kind of thinking could exclude anyone who has any blood issuing from his/her body from receiving Holy Communion when near death. I'm talking about the presence of occult blood in the stools, or bleeding ulcers, or battlewounds. How far can this narrow thinking go?

Notice the Lord did not chastise the woman with the hemorrhage when she touched his garment. She was sick. This was not a normal menses.

I agree with Chris.
 
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Better to walk to rational and middle road on this one. This kind of thinking does not lead one to the situation stated above. I trust my spiritual father when he says to not take communion during my "monthly." Canons and restrictions are not applied to bind us in straightjackets. And neither should we be so quick and easy to grant ourselves "economia." Millions of other women before me have abided by this, so why do I think I'm so special?
 
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Here's another article related to the matter, but from a different perspective. (The bolding is mine.)



October 27, 2002 - 7th Luke: Woman with the Flow of Blood
by Fr. Demetri Tsigas, St. Gregory of Nyssa, El Cajon, CA


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In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Amen.


Growing up in the 60's, I remember we had a sign in church that was posted by the entrance to the nave. The sign read, "women are requested to cover their heads in Church". Those signs didn't last long, because it was in the early 70's that most Orthodox faithful understood St. Paul's instructions to be culturally motivated and not "Gospel". (1 Cor. 11:3-16)

Interestingly today, some of our parishes are again moving to veils or hats for women. My own understanding is that it is a cultural interpretation and not a theological one. If however you believe it to be a theologically sound directive, you are certainly free to cover your head in church. I do not impose one or the other, but allow each person to have their conscience be their guide.

Today's gospel reading about the woman with the flow of blood has been used at various times in our church either to argue for or against a woman's "cleanness of uncleanness" during certain times of the month (code for menstruation). During much of our Church history, women were disallowed from receiving Holy Communion, coming to church, kissing an icon, or even serving in holy orders during certain times of the month. The real question is whether or not Jewish ritual laws apply in the New Covenant, in the Christian Church.

According to Jewish law, a woman with a flow of blood was unclean, and anyone who touched he also became unclean. In Leviticus 15, we read first about what makes men unclean, then what makes women unclean. How many of you knew that a man could also be unclean at certain times? According to Jewish law, by touching Jesus, this woman ritually defiled him and made him unclean.

The Canons, the rules of our church, which are an interpretation of the Gospel in time, place and situation, are contained in "The Rudder".

Dionysios the Alexandrian, writing during the third century, argues in his Second Canon that a Christian woman is unclean during her "flow of blood". He uses a merely practical argument regarding a woman's physical and mental state during certain times of the month. My guess is that he must have been married to a very hormonal woman. Dionysios' excuse for the woman in today's gospel reading not being unclean is that her flow of blood was not normal but continuous and therefore did not fit the Jewish law exactly. However, if we examine Leviticus 15, we see that there was a specific case of a long menstruation described that would make a woman continuously unclean. Dionysios would have made a very poor Jewish lawyer. His argument seems to betray a bias, arguing to support his personal, culturally derived belief rather than looking objectively for the truth.

In the commentary, it discusses that many women actually thought they were "devoid and destitute of the Grace of the Holy Spirit of God" during such times. They were afraid that if they died during that time, their destination would not be to Heaven. This Canon was meant to assure them that they were merely unclean, but still had the Grace of the Holy Spirit, and could and should pray at home (but not in church). The commentary also goes on to say that Deaconesses were done away with because of this issue of uncleanness. Deaconesses exist in the New Testament. Using this excuse to do away with them, again seems to me a clear and unjust bias by churchmen.

Interestingly, when I've had this conversation with older women, they often come close to biting my head off, saying that they don't even want to go out of the house during such times. Most younger women feel very differently. It's not unlike the discussion of Holy Communion. Those of the older generation who were taught (programmed) to receive infrequently, even when they understand that frequent prepared reception of Holy Communion is the older and more correct tradition, have a hard time, at best, receiving Holy Communion regularly. Of course, this is only complicated further by the issue of uncleanness.

It seems to me that that bias has been continued for a very long time in the Church. How many of you even knew that a man could be unclean? Leviticus 15 actually starts with men and calls them unclean without exception if they have an emission. Dionysios covers this in his Fourth Canon, though you can see that he clearly has a double standard, giving an out to men that doesn't exist in the Old Testament. He says that if it's "natural" and not due to lustful thoughts, overeating or too much drinking, then you're cleared to receive Holy Communion. Is not a woman's situation also natural?

Tertullian, also writing in the third century, takes for granted that the woman is clean, with her faith, her humility, God's grace and her Lord, Jesus Christ, excusing her. Indeed, he writes that Jesus was using this and many other instances as preliminary proofs that it is the heart and the mind and not the body that makes us spiritually unclean. Jesus touched and was touched by many sick, many sinful and many dead people, any one of which would have made Him unclean and required ritual sacrifice - one a sin offering and one a burnt offering, for atonement.

In the book of Acts (10:1-33), St. Peter has a dream in which God clearly reveals to him that what was formerly unclean was now clean.

Canon 51 of the Apostolic Canons makes it clear that there is no longer "clean" and "unclean", but that all things made by God are inherently good. It goes on to say that if any bishop or priest treats "unclean" foods or sex in marriage with loathing (as though they were unclean), that he should be deposed.

I realize that I setting myself up here. I am not imposing one position or the other on any of you. I am simply striving for truth as best I understand it. Both positions have viable support in the Church today. If you feel "not right" to receive or even come to church, that's fine. If however you have prepared spiritually and feel the need to receive, far be it from me to turn you away.

We see in the woman's touching the garment of Christ an analogy for the sacraments, the mysteries of the Church. The garment of Christ is not intrinsically holy or a bestower of God's grace. It is because of the relationship of the garment to Christ that it had the power to heal. Likewise, it is not the wood, paint or canvas of an icon that is holy. It is not the oil, the water, the incense, the bread or the wine that are in and of themselves holy. It is due to their relationship with God that they become visible means of invisible grace. It is Jesus Christ who consecrates these things and us for our sanctification.

Let's be careful however no to go to the opposite extreme and fall into a magical or superstitious understanding of God's grace. Though God's grace is indeed bestowed on us through the sacraments, this does not free us from the responsibility we have to obey God's moral law. We are not freed from working out our own salvation "with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12).

We are still called to love God with all our mind, heart, soul and strength and to love our neighbor as ourselves. We are still called to keep the Sabbath, treat God's name as holy, honor our parents, not lie, not cheat, not steal, not be jealous, not fornicate nor commit adultery and not murder. We are still called to pray to God, to worship Him, to study His law and to seek perfect union with Him.

It's not enough just to be baptized and buried in the Church, while attending a few weddings, baptisms and Pascha services in between. We need to actualize God's grace in the sacraments through a strong moral life and a strong Church life, both publicly and privately.

We need to gather often in the nave, the ship of the Church, that together with our fellow believers, we may move forward through the rough seas of this life and arrive at the destination of God's kingdom together. Only God ultimately knows what you do in your private prayer life. It is your private life, your relationship with God in prayer, fasting, study and good works that builds you up spiritually and prepares you, for a safe and sure journey, to your desired destination. Otherwise, who knows where you'll end up!

To God be the glory, now and forever, and to the ages of ages, Amen. -Fr. Demetri Tsigas
God is love.
We are created in God's Image.
We are created to love
 
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Thank you, Photini, for posting this sermon.

There is also the time of confinement after childbirth when the new mother does not come to church until the 40 days are completed when she brings her newborn to church for his/her presentation and she is then blessed to receive the sacraments once again.

When I had a miscarriage, I had to wait until my flow stopped before being allowed to receive Holy Confession and Holy Communion. I accepted this in obedience. Miscarriages can be caused by negligence on our parts -- too much work, improper nutrition -- so the Orthodox Church always asks the woman suffering a miscarriage to go to Holy Confession before receiving Holy Communion.

Hope this helps.
Elizabeth
 
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