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That is because we're on different levels. You pursue the natural wan we peusue the spiritual. Spiritual thing are only understood spiritually. You'reclearly not following the Spirit as noted by your confession above.

2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Yes scratch, you are on a higher level than me, i'm down here trying my hardest to stay here.
 
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The holy law is good if used lawfully . humans cannot use the law lawfully, so another covenant was necessary . the law is obsolete .

Amen the letter of the law died on the cross; but did the "weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith" die too, or were they resurrected in Christ? I believe the latter, that the "righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in" me in Christ Jesus.
 
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I don't know but I think John's simply emphasizing the same point by wording it in more than one way. To be unjust is to be filthy, to be righteous is to be holy, to be just/pure is to be righteous/holy. JMO.
 
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The weightier matters point to the foundation of the new building .

the law is just a shadow of that building .
 
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So straighten us out. I think your just expressing things to get your way. We have given you permission to have it your way for you. We aren't about to give you permission to enslave uf to your bondage and level of pain and woe war. Most of us have fought that one one once upon a time.
 
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Here we have Paul telling brethren, not heathens, to not live after the flesh. He is telling them to mortify the deeds of the flesh. Is Paul not spiritual? Is He an enemy of the Cross? I don't think so.
Are you answering both questions with that one statement? Oh I having a little problem with the negative manner of statement here. Of course Paul is on a spiritual plane. And those who demand the performance of the flesh according to the law are sowing in the flesh and will reap corruption just like you said.
 
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To your verse, but your comments don't fit them. It is most unfortunate that you don't understand what the verse says enough to apply them to your life.
 
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Your qupte covers alot of ground. But NTL I think for the thread and forum in general my attitude is expressed very vell in verse 6 above. And I certianly apply verses 15 and 17 as you have bolded.

Now I'm deffinately a follower of Christ. Nothing in verse 3 is manifest in my life. And when it comes to my relationship with God I'm certianly not light. I do enjoy a good joke, but I don't think that Paul is saying don't have any fun in life.

What do you give thanks for? The last Thanksgiving themed religious assembly I was in everybody including the pastor gave thanks for temporal thing and not one single person gave thanks for their salvation. I find it amazing. The supposed reason for the assembly was left out. Has God become the excuxe and not the reason.
 
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Nice posts of Scripture. But I do wonder why your posting them with the emphasis by bolding if you're not also preaching and in this case condemning others while upholding yourself. That is a no fly.
 
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2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Yes scratch, you are on a higher level than me, i'm down here trying my hardest to stay here.
Amazing! simplly amazing I say amazing. This vividly demonstrates that you're here for something other than personal growth or the helpin of others. But you're providing a wonderful opportunity for the truth to be expressed.

You can stay down trodden and discouraged if you like. Personally I don't much care for misery and self debasement behavior.

I'm past my time limit as usual this morning, but I must go to town for business. Later folks.
 
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Shadow indicates there is a solid to cast the shadow.. if you see the shadow you get some idea of the mass.

u would have a hard time in Hebrews or Col proving that the writer uses shadow in a positive manner.
 
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I don't know but I think John's simply emphasizing the same point by wording it in more than one way. To be unjust is to be filthy, to be righteous is to be holy, to be just/pure is to be righteous/holy. JMO.

It is all about the "how'..no, we don't want to kill people, or steal, or do other unsavory acts, but the how, is to put off the old man, that had sin, and flesh, and law in IT, and to be in the new man, created by God, not us, in holiness, eph 4.

Good morning.

You just gotta under stand resurrection, as per Paul's emphasis, as to the how, in Rom 6, Col 3;1, Col 2:12, Eph 2;6, Phil 3, etc.

All died in adam, then the law hit IT>>IT>, Adam's children, arousing sin, Rom 7:5, but the law can't hit the second Adam's children. That is why we can never be under law, because he condemened sin, in THAT old creation order, Rom 8:3.
 
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was the law the answer in eph? he just got done calling it abolished, so how was law the answer? Again, we put off the old..try to understand that is what happened when u got saved, you died...you were raised, now just stay raised for crying out loud.
 
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Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

There's that word righteousness again.

my dear bro, you get this in your spirit, you will see how elemental law is..


Colossians 3:3
For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
 
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