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I think it's very clear that you believe that following the written letter is tantamount to picking up your cross. Am I correct?

If this is correct, what is your motivation?

I think doing what God tells me in the written letter is obeying Him.
 
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that day will come ... when the fall feasts have their fulfillment in Yeshua just like the spring feasts did... they are the shadow of things to come.
 
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Hmm. I think that falls short. What does the Bible say?

For God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall be saved.

What I explained was how "believes" is faith in action..
 
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Good. Now, what do you think was Jesus' motivation?


The same, to love His father in heaven by obeying Him. It was Gods will that He be the sacrifice for our sins, so He obeyed Gods will. Of course Jesus loves us also.
 
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You tell me.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
(John 15:13)

He died for us.

The crux of the issue is: mere obedience to the law is motivated by self-preservation. Christ was motivated by self-sacrifice for the benefit of others.

This is the image of God. If you follow Him, doing as He did, you receive His Spirit and His likeness, which is holy and righteous. This why we are no longer in need of the law.

"But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. " Gal 3:25
 
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that day will come ... when the fall feasts have their fulfillment in Yeshua just like the spring feasts did... they are the shadow of things to come.

No, read Zech 14, it is about subjugation, judgment, not exactly a happy gathering.

Col 2:17 is also present tense. The substance came.
 
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For God so loved the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall be saved.

What I explained was how "believes" is faith in action..

Everywhere, the scripture used Abraham with the apostle Paul, it is about walking in faith, not law, not judaism, not nationalism. Something to ponder.

It is sin, to return to the old cov, said in no uncertain terms. lets not grieve the Spirit of grace.


10:26For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?
 
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Please brother, keep your schoolmaster theology, I listen to God. I obey because i love Him, it wasn't always so and i knew that if i loved Him i will obey Him, so now i seek to obey Him. The School master may have been the OC law, but the NT has its own teaching, and if you want to call that law , knock yourself out, the words of Christ and His apostles are my school master and the Holy Spirit my helper, and Jesus my redeemer.
 
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It's not my theology. It's Paul's. If you were to obey the OC Laws as opposed to the NT rules, what would be the difference?
 
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It's not my theology. It's Paul's. If you were to obey the OC Laws as opposed to the NT rules, what would be the difference?

Ok good. Why are you attempting to talk me out of obeying the words of Jesus and his apostles then? Isn't that what you're doing? I'm talking about the NT teaching, not sacrificing animals and getting circumcised. Should i obey Galatians and not the rest of the NT also?
 
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