That's what is offensive, people don't want to be told that anything they do is wrong. They have to figure it out for themselves.
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Holiness VS Worldliness
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That's what is offensive, people don't want to be told that anything they do is wrong. They have to figure it out for themselves.
Must have about made you sick to see all that garbage preaching when you needed encouragement and comfort in a time of deep trial that money can't help.
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People don't know the difference between "Be ye holy, for I am holy" and legalism. "Be ye holy" is a command for us to do, and if we are doing things that are not consciously attempting or actively being holy, then we are practicing permissiveness and calling it holiness. Let's be honest, and I'll start with me. When I get discouraged and want to escape and play chess for a couple hours, there is nothing holy about that. But I'm sure not going to walk into a Hollywood movie theater and sit there looking like a lost person trying to pass time...that is wayyyy over the line of holiness. Playing chess is bad enough, hard enough to make excuses for myself to squander time that way.
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You are not being holy if you are allowing yourself to be entertained by things that promote or glorify sin. You can say you are holy because God makes you holy, but if you are not acting like you are holy I'm not going to believe you.
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That it did! A message on repentance, to make sure a soul is secure for eternity would have been nice too!
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twin1954
Baptist by the Bible
I love much of what J.C. Ryle wrote. He was truly a man of God used mightily. Though I may disagree with his premise in this book you may enjoy it. Here it is on pdf that you can read online but I would recommend that you get it from amazon or some other source:
Holiness
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Though Ryle was an Anglican Bishop and with Calvinistic leanings, I do like a lot of what he said in that link on holiness. I only want to point out that he said those things before television, internet, movies, and gaming "evolved". In his day, indulging of sins of the world pretty much involved bars, prostitutes, and money grubbing wheeling and dealing. The world today places it's lures in front of us more subtly through the world of media and advertisements, with pictures and messages worded to tempt us into sins which we can play out in the theatre of our minds if we have enough strength to resist actual physical indulgences. Not many decades ago, pretty much every pulpit in the nation preached against television, then they cooled down and television became entrenched in culture. Then they preached against the sexually suggestive gyrating pelvis of Elvis and his rock and roll music, but that cooled down quickly as the sixties flowered with the hippie generation.
Christians have become desensitized. The psalm writer said "I will set no wicked thing before my eyes". Today the common saying is "it's ok to look as long as you don't touch". That common saying is a lie that has crept in through tolerance of worldly pleasures and acceptance and approval of worldly pursuits. Christians today generally appear no different than the world as we indulge in the same pleasures the same way as lost people and we show off our cars and houses the same way they do. Now I'm feeling convicted by my own preaching, it's time to post some bible quotes in my front yard while the law still allows me to do so.
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It is offensive for a hypocrite to judge others when they are just as guilty.
Example: Pastor decrees no one to eat at a restaurant that serves booze.
The next day a baby Christian sees his Pastor walking past the beer isle in the grocery store.
The Pastor condemns divorce yet has had one himself.
The Pastor demands than women keep there dresses long,to keep him from trying to look up their skirt?
Legalism is not Bibical, and it removes the Gospel from the lost and replaces it with made up nonsense.
A Pastor will sheer his sheep until they bleed to death because of his own fear,and fear of losing his congregation,if he would feed his sheep instead of shearing them he need not worry.
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Why would you make a Ad hominem statement assuming I entertain sin?
I was born Baptist,I have hosted Baptist Churches,and I fellowship among many Baptist Preachers.
My faith icon was changed due to being abused by morons who tried to interfere with my personal life.
The founders of Word of Faith were Baptist.
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ACTUAL FOOTAGE Pastor Beaten Tased by Border Patrol DPS (Alex Jones) GIV...: https://youtu.be/WVMZUgmrJrk
Yes Steven Anderson also has a video telling us how to relieve ourselves against a wall.
Of course if a man sits down to urinate he is a sinner,so I guess handicapped people are sinners.
Yes Steven Anderson also has a video telling us how to relieve ourselves against a wall.
Of course if a man sits down to urinate he is a sinner,so I guess handicapped people are sinners.
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To now faith:
well I don't know what you are arguing for other that to equate permissiveness with holiness. I'm not accusing you of anything. I don't know you that well, you have not said you are doing anything that I can say is sinful. I am simply commenting on how worldliness contrasts against holiness and how worldliness is subtle in it's temptations via modern media, and how many Christians accept those worldly solicitations of indulgence as their entertainments and amusements.
I'm glad you are a strong Baptist. I don't know why you seem to be taking offense at what I'm saying which is entirely in line with what the Bible says about holiness. God wants our every thought to be focused on Him, praying without ceasing, rejoicing evermore, and giving thanks in and for all things. It is impossible to do any of that if we allow our brains to go into neutral to let ungodly entertainments lead our musings. That's a fact.
And there are other ways the world creeps in to contaminate our holiness. It requires discipline to keep ourselves, as commanded, unspotted from the world. You can't be a disciple of Jesus Christ without being disciplined. You can be saved and relax and enjoy yourself, but to be a disciple you have to be in discipline. This is not legalism. To practice holiness in contrast to being worldly you must practice disciplined obedience to God in everything you say, everything you do, and everywhere you go. God wants us to do this, it's loud and clear all through the New Testament, and you have to ignore the teachings on holiness to make Romans 14 and all those other things you are quoting fit into teaching permissiveness.
I don't want to keep arguing and fighting with you on this subject. I was just like you, a strong Baptist saying the same things you are saying using the same passages the same way...for twenty two years and I was wrong! And you can be sure I was much better at making your arguments than you are.
I took college classes which were entirely dedicated to what was then my point of view the same as your point of view now. One of the class textbooks was "Addicted to Mediocrity" by Franky Schaeffer, son of the beloved Francis Schaeffer. I did a term paper by expanding on the things he wrote in that book and I think I made better points in it than Schaeffer did while remaining in agreement with Schaeffer and my school on the topic of practicing Christianity in a way contemporary for modern culture. I got an A or A plus on that paper, and probably an A in the class. It was easy because I loved it, I loved saying the kind of things you have been saying in this thread and God made me pay dearly for it (a long story I probably will not tell in this thread though I did tell the whole story tearfully in front of my church when my pastor let me stand in his pulpit for ten minutes, a pulpit which has been occupied by some of the greatest preachers in the nation today) and I was wrong. I should have known better because I was taught better and knew better from my own Bible studies the first few years after I got saved. I compromised standards of holiness after going to college, calling strict standards "legalism" the same as you are doing.
I do not recommend Schaeffer's book which was one of my lifetime favorites untill I renounced it a few years ago, but you probably will enjoy it. I still have it in my library, I'll probably throw it in the trash soon before somebody finds it and reads it and get's the wrong impressions.
I much more recommend that you listen to the sermon on worldliness vs godliness recommended by rockytopva earlier in this thread, but I believe you have already rejected that with prejudice.
I do not want to continue arguing with you on this subject. You are taking offense and you should not be taking offense.
well I don't know what you are arguing for other that to equate permissiveness with holiness. I'm not accusing you of anything. I don't know you that well, you have not said you are doing anything that I can say is sinful. I am simply commenting on how worldliness contrasts against holiness and how worldliness is subtle in it's temptations via modern media, and how many Christians accept those worldly solicitations of indulgence as their entertainments and amusements.
I'm glad you are a strong Baptist. I don't know why you seem to be taking offense at what I'm saying which is entirely in line with what the Bible says about holiness. God wants our every thought to be focused on Him, praying without ceasing, rejoicing evermore, and giving thanks in and for all things. It is impossible to do any of that if we allow our brains to go into neutral to let ungodly entertainments lead our musings. That's a fact.
And there are other ways the world creeps in to contaminate our holiness. It requires discipline to keep ourselves, as commanded, unspotted from the world. You can't be a disciple of Jesus Christ without being disciplined. You can be saved and relax and enjoy yourself, but to be a disciple you have to be in discipline. This is not legalism. To practice holiness in contrast to being worldly you must practice disciplined obedience to God in everything you say, everything you do, and everywhere you go. God wants us to do this, it's loud and clear all through the New Testament, and you have to ignore the teachings on holiness to make Romans 14 and all those other things you are quoting fit into teaching permissiveness.
I don't want to keep arguing and fighting with you on this subject. I was just like you, a strong Baptist saying the same things you are saying using the same passages the same way...for twenty two years and I was wrong! And you can be sure I was much better at making your arguments than you are.
I took college classes which were entirely dedicated to what was then my point of view the same as your point of view now. One of the class textbooks was "Addicted to Mediocrity" by Franky Schaeffer, son of the beloved Francis Schaeffer. I did a term paper by expanding on the things he wrote in that book and I think I made better points in it than Schaeffer did while remaining in agreement with Schaeffer and my school on the topic of practicing Christianity in a way contemporary for modern culture. I got an A or A plus on that paper, and probably an A in the class. It was easy because I loved it, I loved saying the kind of things you have been saying in this thread and God made me pay dearly for it (a long story I probably will not tell in this thread though I did tell the whole story tearfully in front of my church when my pastor let me stand in his pulpit for ten minutes, a pulpit which has been occupied by some of the greatest preachers in the nation today) and I was wrong. I should have known better because I was taught better and knew better from my own Bible studies the first few years after I got saved. I compromised standards of holiness after going to college, calling strict standards "legalism" the same as you are doing.
I do not recommend Schaeffer's book which was one of my lifetime favorites untill I renounced it a few years ago, but you probably will enjoy it. I still have it in my library, I'll probably throw it in the trash soon before somebody finds it and reads it and get's the wrong impressions.
I much more recommend that you listen to the sermon on worldliness vs godliness recommended by rockytopva earlier in this thread, but I believe you have already rejected that with prejudice.
I do not want to continue arguing with you on this subject. You are taking offense and you should not be taking offense.
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Avid
A Pilgrim and a Sojourner...
I am not a legalist, though, when I quote scripture from the Bible, I am sometimes called that by people who wish to avoid the clear truth of these passages. I do not condone legalism as a path for being right with God. We need to deal directly with the LORD Jesus Christ, and find victory over these things. One man described how he would shield his eyes from a billboard on his way to work each day. He soon realized the problem was his own heart, and not the wickedness of the world around him. That was the 1950s.
Just picking up on this principle in your post... There are things that are known to be used in these advertizements that are effective in doing this very thing. It is an interesting study in itself, if you are curious. When I first heard of these techniques, it sounded so ridiculous to me, but the proof is there to be seen when you know what to look for, and the results speak for themselves.
Sometimes, it is merely cropping a photo to convey an odd image, or actually fiddling with the negative to make the image have something that is not really there. Some techniques were outlawed in the 1950s, because they were too effective!!! That is proof right there!
It is important to realize that we are responsible for what we think & do, regardless of what temptation comes our way. Some things should never be described or repeated, but temptations may come to the person in ways an unregenerate person will likely find irresistible. That is why we are told:
I Corinthians 10
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Shielding your eyes may keep some of these things at bay for the moment, but we need to be regenerated so that we do not think the way that is so easily led astray by the enemy. Our own worst enemy is our own heart that will deceive us to think we are right before the LORD when we may have simply resisted His grace in preference for our own desires. We are not able to even know how decietful our heart is if God has not opened our eyes to it!13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Jeremiah 17
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Let us seek the LORD to change our hearts, and worry less about our surroundings. The world does not understand the true Christian, because he has strength from the LORD to resist the temptations that usually work to bring down the person, and compromise his testimony. If the flesh (EGO, Fallen Human Nature,) is crucified, and the deeds of the flesh are mortified, then there is not something there for the temptation to appeal to in the first place! We ALL should search our hearts to see if these things are accomplished in our own lives. Seek the LORD for deliverance from this if you find it otherwise.9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Romans 6
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
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16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 8
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Galatians 5
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
The Apostle Paul is not telling us to do this to be saved. He is telling us that, if we are saved, born again, are in Christ, and are a new creation, this has been accomplished.6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
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16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 8
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Galatians 5
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
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A Pilgrim and a Sojourner...
It is important to see both sides of this coin. If you had a problem with a particular sin, do not dwell on the temptation to repeat that.SaintJoeNow said:
Romans 13
14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Also, as one preacher said, you should "beware of your strong points!" You may think that there are sins you have not been tempted to do, or displayed any particular interest in doing, so you see those things as strengths that do not need to be guarded against. Satan knows this by his past efforts to tempt you. Hence, he may try something a little more sneaky to catch you off-guard, and draw you away in a manner you never guessed.14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
We need to pray to the LORD for strength, not just say we can get away with doing that, because of the grace of God.
Romans 6
1 ¶ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Too many times, we are not aware of why God has offered His grace. We are not able to save ourselves from the penalty of SIN, nor are we not able to make our way to the presence of the Father in Heaven apart from what Jesus has done. Likewise, we do not have the ability to live right and pleasing to God in this life apart from the regeneration of our minds that is accomplished when God, by His grace, has made us a new creation in Christ. If we are new, we are not what we once were. Our old sinful desires are odious to us, and we seek God's grace to be purged for those works of the flesh, and have our affections for the wicked elements of this world nailed to the cross. It seems this is a daily vigil.1 ¶ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
I Corinthians 9
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
I Corinthians 15
31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
The Apostle to whom we attribute having delivered a significant part of our doctrine, told us to be vigilant in these things, because of the very weakness of our human existence, that is often given as an excuse for sinning, may cause us to fall in an irrecoverable way. If we have truly heard and experienced the working of God, we are responsible, and should seek God to accomplish these things in us.27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
I Corinthians 15
31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
Hebrews 6 and 10 tell us how that, to sin against God when we have truly come to this level of understanding, is not recoverable, and it is impossible for the person to be redeemed. II Peter 2 tells us it is better to not have known these things than to turn from them once God, in His great mercy, has shown us the truth.
II Peter 2
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
We are persuaded better things of you, though thus we speak...19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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When we sit in front of a tv, or listen to worldy music, we have yielded our minds to be led by them and they have us in bondage for that time while the engrave messages and images in the history of our soul and we have to give account to God for allowing ourselves to be subjected to it. People who say "Don't judge me, brother, the Lord gives me freedom, the truth has made me free" and then passively sit under the Pied Pipers of the world which today are television, popular music, video games, dance floors, .....are making a mistake.
This computer is consecrated for God's service, for His use to reach others and to help me grow in grace and knowledge of Him. No more chess on this computer as of today. Made myself feel guilty about that with my own preaching on the subject. I want holiness. "Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord"
II Peter 2
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
We are persuaded better things of you, though
This computer is consecrated for God's service, for His use to reach others and to help me grow in grace and knowledge of Him. No more chess on this computer as of today. Made myself feel guilty about that with my own preaching on the subject. I want holiness. "Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord"
II Peter 2
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
We are persuaded better things of you, though
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I still like this post for attempting to understand and explain "the lust of the flesh", "the lust of the eyes" and "the pride of life" as the things that are in the world against God. Our flesh is never satisfied, that's why we so much enjoy pigging out on Thanksgiving Day and then we do it again the next year. Our dying bodies have a craving for satisfaction they can never get because nothing can ever change the course of death in our bodies, the course set by the polluted river of sin which pollutes all the ground of our souls.
Quoting Avid from his post above..."Taste, feeling and an indulgence of the senses of our fleshly body is the first and most obvious example of these. It is part of being alive, but is ALWAYS taken to an unholy extent."
With our eyes, we see.....and even if we are blind, the eyes of our imagination see.....and the lust of the eyes desires to know the pleasures of what they see. The lust of the eyes is, I think, a wandering desire to know the pleasures of whatever gets their attention as desirable. Again, I am in agreement with Avid's approach to this topic.
As for the pride of life, I think the example of Nixon's "I'm not a crook" statement was a fine example. " His status of being good and righteous was all he seemed to have left of his pride at that point. Even that was soon proven to be a false righteousness."
After the pride and pleasures of material things are gone, the man still stood proud to proclaim his own righteousness. I enjoy debating with atheists on philosophical grounds, and I think it is solid logic to say their core belief in atheism is that they believe they have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell because they did not choose to exist. They insist they have nobody to blame for their existence (that could only be God), and nobody to thank for their existence (again, that could only be God). They reject the idea of Hell because they insist they have the right to exist outside of Hell based on the only thing they really believe, that being that they are not in Hell's fire now.
They, like Nixon, are not crooks. They are only existing because they had no choice, and because they had no choice in existing, they believe they cannot be punished in death and they minimalize the penalty of death as simply a natural event. As long as they live, they think they have the right to live because their existence was not their choice. It's raw, basic pride, the pride of life, which flies in the face of God like the devil, accusing God of not being good because he executes punishment in death. That pride of life plays out in boasting of material things or natural abilities.
The world, and the things of the world, is a complex subject because God has set the world in our hearts. Because our sin nature is deceptive, we tend to not see how the things of the world fool us. In our pride, we create gray areas which blur the lines dividing the holy from the things of the world. Many Christians, before realizing how much they have allowed those lines to be blurred by living in the shadows of gray areas find themselves deep in the grip of sin which nobody can say is not wicked sin, and these are the Christians who become the poster-children of ungodly people who slander Christians for thinking that because they are forgiven by God, they have a license to do whatever they feel like doing whenever they feel like doing it. Jimmy Swaggart fell this way after he did not keep himself accountable with godly men as he tried to minister to prostitutes, befriending them, keeping company with them, trying to help them and get them saved.....while they tried to seduce him. This is how the devil tries to seduce all of us by weakening our testimony with the allures of the things of the world, to get us out on the dance floors dancing under sparkling dim lights in shadows of gray areas to dim the glow of holiness God wants us to have, for which He commands us "be ye holy, for I am holy, saith the Lord."
There is no holiness in the shadows of compromise with the things of the world.
From Avid in the above post..... "There is a great deal to be said about how man always fails in this (as long as he is ruled by self,) how Adam and Eve failed in these things specifically, how Jesus Christ was tempted with these specifically by Satan himself, and came out victorious.
If you like, I'll make another post with those issues addressed. Thanks for your patience while reading this quick treatment of the subject.[/
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I think this would make a great illustration for the contrast between holiness and loving the world and the things in the world. What better person for the example of Moses could there be other than Jesus Himself, and what better representation of the world than Satan's temptations of Jesus at the beginning of His ministry after being baptized by John the Baptist.
How 'bout it?
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Yes, we can't control what the world places around us, but we certainly can control what we place around ourselves. God wants us to actively put on the veil of His holiness and the result of that holiness is separation from the things of the world. The Holy Spirit in us is repulsed by anything that promotes or glorifies sin, and when we sit passively in the presence of things that promote or glorify sin, and enjoy those presentations as we try to sort out the good from the bad, the glow of holiness fades and we look the same as the rest of the world, dancing to worldly music and singing worldly songs, dressing in worldly ways, flaunting ourselves in pride.
Passing a billboard on the highway, and seeing that it advertises a "gentlemen's" club, is one thing. Lingering on the picture or letting our imagination indulge in the pleasures to be found in sin is another thing. A woman's body is a wonderful and beautiful thing, and that wonder and beauty can be considered good while we tolerate, perhaps not even recognizing, the lust in the shadows of our soul which pollutes everything beautiful and turns it into our own unholy evil. Holiness requires that we be continually on guard against the lures of the world. Our sin nature deceives us to make allowances in gray areas. Many Christians have a big problem with gluttony. Oh, sure, don't judge anybody because they are fat. Their sin is obvious while my sin may be hidden in the dark corners of my imagination. But sin is sin. We make allowances for the sins of others (and I have some very dear, very fat friends. If and when they become ready to deal with their overeating as sin, they will deal with it. Untill them, I'm sure they are like everybody else with no shortage of sin that needs to be dealt with by the cross).
The point I'm making here about holiness is my own, and your own need today of more holiness than you had yesterday, and our need of not letting the holiness of yesterday fade today. Moses' face glowed for a while when he came down from the mount, and then faded. That's the way it goes, we are leaky vessels full of hole caused by our own sin and tempted by the world to allow more holes so the glow of holiness runs out of our lives.
"There is a great deal to be said about how man always fails in this (as long as he is ruled by self,) how Adam and Eve failed in these things specifically, how Jesus Christ was tempted with these specifically by Satan himself, and came out victorious.
If you like, I'll make another post with those issues addressed. Thanks for your patience while reading this quick treatment of the subject."
I enjoyed your long post and would very much like to see you do one on the temptations of Christ in the wilderness and how Satan tried to use the things of the world to tempt Him.
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