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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
hiroshima and nagasaki.
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I'd say no. Murder has to be classified as unlawful. Morally, it stings, but if it never happened, many, many millions probably would've died in a drawn out war.
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I don;t agree...because I think it matters who is the aggressor. However, it makes anyone sound high-minded to say that all war is murder. That's why a lot of them do say it. They never think of the millions of people saved because someone fought against the tyrants and plunderers of history.
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Do you think if the iraq or vietnam war didnt happen, those souls would've been evangelized/reached by a missionary? The harvest of souls God can save is plenty but the evangelists are few.
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Legally - no the winners of WWII had full reign to decide what was internationally legal and what wasn't
Biblically - No the God in several areas commissioned the wholesale slaughter of entire townships including women and children.
Morally - That we as humans can believe that the use of nuclear warfare makes us better as a planet or a better species, or makes an individual nation a better nation morally for having used nuclear weapons; is a delusion and surely as close to evil as one could get. The act of war is bad enough, but to knowingly perpetrate death on such a massive scale along with the horrendous legacy that a nuclear aftermath brings, must surely relegate the perpetrator into moral bankruptcy
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The title of the thread is "hiroshima and nagasaki" but your post is about something entirely different. If, by combining the two, you meant to ask if the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were murder you are setting up a distorted view.
These two acts of bombing were the last major acts of a horrendous war in which millions of people were killed, either as soldiers or civilians. It is pointless to call war deaths murders, as the meaning of the word commonly means unlawful taking of life in a society. It makes as much sense as calling the taking of life in society an act of war.
It is generally believed that by bringing WWII to a close by dropping these bombs, many lives that could have been lost by continual fighting were spared. My pacifist mother, who lived through WWII, agreed 100% with this.
When I was a kid I asked Shigeko Niimoto (who lived with us after the war) if she hated Americans. Her reply was that no, she hated war.
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