He talks a big show about how killing of Christians is justified while his sorry *** sits safe in the USA.
How does that make him a hypocrite?
Christians killed more people than any religious group on the earth.
Why would you call the British Christians? I see no Christ in what some Brits did to India.Interesting. We are to forget the nearly two hundred years of oppression, subjugation, and deprivation of our fundamental freedoms and human rights under the hands of the Christian British. We are to forget the continuous violence and intimidation by Christian terrorist groups in the North East. We are to forget the murder of people like Swami Shanti Kali and Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
Yes, the Hindus in Orissa responsible for these terrible and inexcusable acts are to blamed for causing the majority of the violence. Yes, their acts should be condemned and faulted by every reasonable and sensible human being. But, I have to wonder where anyone can find the temerity to exploit this terrible situation and use it as a propaganda tool to somehow shame the other one billion Hindus into conversion, when all you need is a cursory glance at the modern history of India to understand what Christian imperialism, violence, and persecution of indigenous populations mean. I've said this earlier and I think it's significant enough to say it again, the worst consequence of this appalling situation would be for the two sides to descend into slinging blame upon and deriding each other. We've had enough of that to last us for centuries. This is a time to look towards forgiveness and ahimsa, the fundamental principles of Hinduism, and to constructively consider ways to resolve and defuse this situation, so that these innocent people, Hindus and Christians, can get on with their lives.
Ghandi liked Christ, but did not become a follower; I don't think he meant it; certainly he did not understand Christ nor the burdens of HIS followers.I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Mahatma Gandhi quote
Given current events, I have to laugh at such a statement from a Hindu.
There is an important point of logic to be made here. I feel it is important to note that the so-called "No True Scotsman" fallacy isn't really a logical fallacy. As you may know, it was invented by former atheist Anthony Flew, and for the purpose of religious arguments. It may sometimes be used to refer to arguments that are flawed for other reasons, but for you to disagree with my argument on the basis of the No True Scotsman fallacy in the same way that you might cite, say "argument by ridicule," is simply an error in logic.
This can be shown by the fact that by treating this as a valid fallacy, one could very well argue that all people are Christians. Are most Americans, who have been baptized at birth and who have attended a church a few times in their lives Christians? Is my agnostic friend who calls himself a Christian because he is a "good person" a Christian? In citing the No True Scotsman fallacy you strip Christianity of its defining traits. Christians are defined by adherance to a believe in Jesus Christ, the Bible, and various creeds and confessions that summarize the Bible. If you suggest that someone is a Christian merely because he says so, then all you've managed to do is make the term "Christian" far less useful.
Though there are many reasons why I might discount the vast majority of the Anglican Chuch as genuine Christians on the basis of their actions, the reasons I gave earlier are specifically related to the beliefs of the Anglican Church in general (I say "in general" because there are local Anglican churches in existence which adhere to Biblical Christianity). A large number of Anglican bishops and churches deny the inerrency of the Scriptures and believe that non-Christians can be saved. These are heretical beliefs which ultimately deny Christ and cut people off from the communion of the church. This may mean very little to you, because you do not believe in any supernatural communion of all Christians. To us though, it defines Christians from the rest of the world. Therefore this is probably an issue of language. What do you mean when you talk about "Christians?" Are you and I even talking about the same thing? If you defie a Christian as someone who professes to be a Christian, then I take no issue with the claim that Christians are responsible for all manners of sin. In fact I don't really care, since I don't assume any responsibility for such individuals.
Jesus says that all people who don't believe in him will burn in hell for all eternity (see Mark 16:16 and John 3:18).
While I do not believe that I have told any lie in the course of this discussion, I wish to point out that it's grossly hypocritical of you to admonish Christians to obey the teachings of Christ while disobeying the same, because you will be judged with the same standard that you use to judge others. You might as well be leading a blind person while wearing a blindfold.
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. Mahatma Gandhi quote
Given current events, I have to laugh at such a statement from a Hindu.
Why would you call the British Christians? I see no Christ in what some Brits did to India.
Thanks for demonstrating to the world that you have no clue what you are talking about. It's helpfull.
You have to have the knowledge of history and theology in order to determine who is a Christian and why, since you don't possess that, you go by identity. Produce some discussion worthy of people's time.
We might be "egoistical maniacs" but at least we don't put our feet in our mouths as you demonstrate in whole a lot of threads. You have no face to talk about "intellectual dishonesty" when you can't attempt to correct Secundulus. Babbling some illogical nonsense such as "all Brits are Christians" is not a valid correction. Do your homework.
Do you expect him to respond to this?
He basically ridiculed you in your false usage of the Scotsman term, he taught you a lesson, he essentially owned you, and since you can't answer his position, you end up talking about "demonstrating to the (world)" and nonsense. If only you had half of the education and training of arunma, you could have spelled better!
This forum has become a complete waste of time.Do you expect him to respond to this? He basically ridiculed you in your false usage of the Scotsman term, he taught you a lesson, he essentially owned you, and since you can't answer his position, you end up talking about "demonstrating to the (world)" and nonsense. If only you had half of the education and training of arunma, you could have spelled better!
I am commanded in the Torah to protect Israel at any cost and if that means war then so be it. Comparing me protecting the laws of G-d is in no way similar to what Hitler was "protecting" which was nothing but his own mind.
Easy answer. Cuz they wuz Christians. They were just egotistical maniacs not unlike Seculundus, Bushmaster, and Arunma on these boards.
So if Seculundus, Bushmaster, and Arunma are Christians, so were the Brits.
Thanks for demonstrating to the world that you have no clue what you are talking about. It's helpfull.
I'm actually quite honored to be categorized in the "Christians who take their faith seriously" list. It so happens that Seculundus and Bushmaster are both Christians who do not bow to liberal doctrines merely for the purpose of sounding politically correct. I find that "crazy" and "maniacal" are usually used by atheists as euphemisms for Christians whose faith extends beyond Sunday morning.
I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but my time is valuable enough that I don't wish to engage in childish exchanges of insulting comments with angry atheists. In case you are ever interested in intelligent discourse, I'll certainly not ignore your future posts outright. But I am writing this so that you will know why I don't have any further responses that I care to offer to your comments.
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