Highly disturbing computer game...

[Margim]

http://www.leftbehindgames.com/pages/the_games.htm

I don't know what is more concerning... that this game is made, or that people here might not see anything wrong with it.

I'm not one for cliche wristbands, but in response to the question WWJD, I imagine he'd have a few serious questions for this game's makers.

 

[applepowerpc]

I see stuff wrong with it, but it's probably a lame game.

 

[cwolf20]

On the one hand, it's violent...

on the other, a disciple cut a soldier with a sword in the garden. A sword that he had apparently been carrying in plain view for a long time. A sword that Jesus never told him to get rid of.

The premise makes sense.... but I'm not going to play it.

 

[applepowerpc]

You know, this is clearly off-topic, but what I found really cool about Peter's sword incident: Peter said he would lay down his life for Jesus, to which Jesus replied, "before the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crows...". Everyone remembers Peter denied Him. But no one remembers that Peter drew his sword and fought an overwhelming crowd in His defense. He was prepared to die, that very moment.

 

[Margim]

On the one hand, it's violent...

on the other, a disciple cut a soldier with a sword in the garden. A sword that he had apparently been carrying in plain view for a long time. A sword that Jesus never told him to get rid of.

The premise makes sense.... but I'm not going to play it.

Jesus never told some guy named Caeser Augustus not to go build an Empire. Jesus never left a message for Mohammad not to start the Islamic Faith. Jesus never told... you get the point. Just because Jesus didn't say not to do something, doesn't mean it was a good idea to do it.

You can't argue a point from negatives. Jesus only once lifted his hands in anger in the New Testament (to clear the temple) and NEVER encouraged his followers to join him. In fact, he told off two disciples for wanting to call lightening down on 'unbelievers' and on the occaision you talk about, he fixed the damage caused.

And what do you mean the premise makes sense?? The premise is in line with one interpretation of apocalyptic text that is only followed by SOME conservative evangelicals in the western world.

It's violent, promotes a version of Christianity that would make Christ sick, and quite frankly does nothing useful for for anybody except for the developers who will cash in on the so-called 'Christian market' in the United States.

 

[PaladinValer]

Its advancing chiliasm, so yes, I agree that it is disturbing.

 

[HelloToAll]

On the one hand, it's violent...

Which is why people like games. Sadly, the theme of violence always draws people to games.

 

[tsukino_Rei]

Looks interesting. If only it didn't promote popular rapture/end-times theology that frightens little children into accepting Jesus so they don't get left behind while simultaneously failing to educate people on the various other end-time theologies with equal if not great Biblical support. Other than that, neat.

 

[SeanSteele]

Looks interesting. If only it didn't promote popular rapture/end-times theology that frightens little children into accepting Jesus so they don't get left behind while simultaneously failing to educate people on the various other end-time theologies with equal if not great Biblical support. Other than that, neat.

Doesn't talk of Hell frighten little children? I'm not saying that I support the game, but I don't see why you're bashing the fact that it supports the rapture. Should we throw out an idea just because it frightens children? Do we stop teaching about hell and satan? That said, I would be interested to hear your ideas on the end-times.

 

[RealityCheck]

How many ways can the Left Behind series be turned into a cash cow?

It is not sick or disturbing. It's business. It's all for making money, it has absolutely nothing to do with promoting faith or Christian principles or anything even remotely related to Jesus.

 

[SeanSteele]

How many ways can the Left Behind series be turned into a cash cow?

It is not sick or disturbing. It's business. It's all for making money, it has absolutely nothing to do with promoting faith or Christian principles or anything even remotely related to Jesus.

It amazes me to read this. That series of books is the very reason I came to Christ. I'm not sure that I believe that view of the end-times, but the basic theme of love and redemption is what made me open the Bible and read. I am not alone either. I know one other person that was effected the same way. There are so many Christian book series out there. The fact that this one made money is not a reason to go against it.

 

[CyberPaladin]

Face it it's a computer game, a novel and movies series not a study resource designed to be used during your quite time while reading Revalation.

 

[RealityCheck]

It amazes me to read this. That series of books is the very reason I came to Christ. I'm not sure that I believe that view of the end-times, but the basic theme of love and redemption is what made me open the Bible and read. I am not alone either. I know one other person that was effected the same way. There are so many Christian book series out there. The fact that this one made money is not a reason to go against it.

It's not that it has made money - it is that it was written and designed for the express purpose of making money. I don't think LaHaye and his ilk really care one way or another what you believe or whether you came to Christ or not. What matters is that you forked over $10.95 for the book.

 

[SeanSteele]

Sorry it took so long to reply, I Just got back from vacation. Anywho, what is with the hostility towards LaHaye? You're saying that the books were "written with the express purpose of making money". Other than the scriptures, what book isn't? You're not going to tell me that Dekker and Peretti are writing for free.

I have never read that making money is a sin. If it is then Solomon had a lot to answer for. Is there something wrong with the message they had? If so, what? It seems to me that they were trying to get their point across and did so very well.

 

[OObi]

It tells you to make holy war... what's the world coming to... (oh yeah, hell)

 

[Adammi]

I find the message of the Left Behind books much more disturbing than this game.

 

[Adammi]

It tells you to make holy war... what's the world coming to... (oh yeah, hell)

LOL good one, but when you realize that this is written by far-right Jerry Falwell following Christians, you realize that they are fighting a holy war. The War in Iraq, the modern day crusade.

 

[Adammi]

Sorry it took so long to reply, I Just got back from vacation. Anywho, what is with the hostility towards LaHaye? You're saying that the books were "written with the express purpose of making money". Other than the scriptures, what book isn't? You're not going to tell me that Dekker and Peretti are writing for free.

I have never read that making money is a sin. If it is then Solomon had a lot to answer for. Is there something wrong with the message they had? If so, what? It seems to me that they were trying to get their point across and did so very well.

*Sorry for typing 3 consecutive posts*

I think that LaHaye is a little bit more focussed on money than other authors considering he is selling pretty much the same book under 2 names. Left Behind and The Rapture

 

[SeanSteele]

It tells you to make holy war... what's the world coming to... (oh yeah, hell)

You must have read a different series of books than I did. The "hero's" of the story only use violence to defend themselves. Every time they try to go on the attack in the story it all goes horibly wrong. I would say that is a good message against a holy war.

 

[SeanSteele]

*Sorry for typing 3 consecutive posts*

I think that LaHaye is a little bit more focussed on money than other authors considering he is selling pretty much the same book under 2 names. Left Behind and The Rapture

Have you read the book? The original Left Behind starts off with the rapture. The new book shows the authors idea of what it will be like leading up to the rapture. Not the same. The new section of three books was also the result of the fans requesting the books. From the sales I would say that there is some real interest there.

To those that say he doesn't really care what you believe, I would have to ask why has he written so many non-fiction books on the subject as well. He believes what he believes. You can not get inside his head and see what he believes, or what motivates him. To launch an attack and put on labels of far-right and crusader is just childish nonsense.

As Christians can't we debate without slinging the hate speech and labels? Leave that to the non-believers, we are called to something higher.