Hi there. I have some questions

[Jayblue1]

So my whole heart has to go with God no matter what happens to me.

If I am saved because I did all the vocal things I did is God now waiting for me to walk in his path?

I say and say this repent thing and never go anywhere. But yet I have this crying urge to leave and i don't know how

 

[Jayblue1]

Do you know how to escape? If you believe what you say, then a demon, some false thing in which you trust, possesses you. He's gotten into your very nature — your soul or conscience. From there, he "guides" you ("Let your conscience be your guide.") to destruction. He will not come out until you, personally, 1) cause him to leave and 2) replace his nature/doctrine with God's nature/Spirit or "Guide."

Are you with me? The doctrine/demon must be destroyed and it can only be destroyed by making God's truth your "master" — that is, scripture. So right here, right now, pray God to take away your sin guilt and sin/demon nature in the name and blood of Jesus Christ and receive His truth — that "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Ro 10:13) Not only will you, "believing with your whole heart"/will (Acts 8:37) be justified, reconciled to God, but He will give you His nature and His image — the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost against which Satan can never prevail again.

What you are bound by are the thoughts and intents put in your heart by the devil. You need to start all over "as a child" (of God) learning from the Spirit, the Bible, the doctrines of God. Old things must (and will) pass away; behold, all things will become new.

It's just like this blaspheming the Spirit question of yours. You desire not to blaspheme but you don't have the spiritual "eyes" to see what it is. So the answer to that is to trust the Spirit who you blasphemed — trust the scriptures, and not what you "understand!"

skypair

i AM READING THIS very intently.

 

[Jayblue1]

Do you know how to escape? If you believe what you say, then a demon, some false thing in which you trust, possesses you. He's gotten into your very nature — your soul or conscience. From there, he "guides" you ("Let your conscience be your guide.") to destruction. He will not come out until you, personally, 1) cause him to leave and 2) replace his nature/doctrine with God's nature/Spirit or "Guide."

Are you with me? The doctrine/demon must be destroyed and it can only be destroyed by making God's truth your "master" — that is, scripture. So right here, right now, pray God to take away your sin guilt and sin/demon nature in the name and blood of Jesus Christ and receive His truth — that "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Ro 10:13) Not only will you, "believing with your whole heart"/will (Acts 8:37) be justified, reconciled to God, but He will give you His nature and His image — the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost against which Satan can never prevail again.

What you are bound by are the thoughts and intents put in your heart by the devil. You need to start all over "as a child" (of God) learning from the Spirit, the Bible, the doctrines of God. Old things must (and will) pass away; behold, all things will become new.

It's just like this blaspheming the Spirit question of yours. You desire not to blaspheme but you don't have the spiritual "eyes" to see what it is. So the answer to that is to trust the Spirit who you blasphemed — trust the scriptures, and not what you "understand!"

skypair

So all I have to do is foresake my past and all gods no matter what hold they have on me and trust that Jesus has me saved? No matter how horrible my thoughts or how terrible I was or am I just go forget it and go to God now? I am so caught up in some demon that I would have to go stop working to feel this.

Thank you sir so much

 

[skypair]

i AM READING THIS very intently.

Good! Realize this, friend. Right now your conscience (soul) is guiding your thinking. Your conscience is "weak" on account of believing things that just aren't true. One of them is that you have blasphemed the Spirit to where you can't be saved. It can only have the consequence of damnation if you die in that state of soul/conscience.

It was the soul that died when you sinned (Ezek 18:20) and was, thereby, open to demonic influence and sin because you developed a "sin nature" at that point. Your nature at birth was "human nature" — innocent instincts that God planted in your soul for self preservation and viability. All this time, you did what you thought you needed to to save yourself. Now you hear the call of God saying only He can save you. Hear Him .. believe Him .. trust Him with your life .. turn to Him when you want truth about your spiritual state! One of the most assuring things about being saved in Christ is that His Spirit witnesses with our spirit (mind, emotions, and will) that we are His children. How? We read scripture not only with understanding but with agreement with all that it says!

skypair

 

[com7fy8]

And we are praying for you. "Please have mercy on him and bless him!!!" Jesus cares about you more than you do!!! So, trust Him.

"And don't quit."

"'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.'" (Matthew 11:28-30)

"It takes time to learn; all our lives we will be learning how to walk with Jesus, love any and all people, and do what He personally leads us to do > all the time > 'The LORD will guide you continually,' we have in Isaiah 58:11."

His "yoke", I believe, is His love and leading, in His peace.

You are not some special case who is the only one who cannot do what you need, while others have been able. We all have been failures and unable. We all have needed to humble ourselves to God, for all He alone is able to do with us.

And we are compassionate, knowing how we have not been able to get anything right, without God > "He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)

 

[skypair]

So all I have to do is foresake my past and all gods no matter what hold they have on me and trust that Jesus has me saved? No matter how horrible my thoughts or how terrible I was or am I just go forget it and go to God now? I am so caught up in some demon that I would have to go stop working to feel this.

Thank you sir so much

Jay, God says that He will make you into a new creation — new person. He even gives you a body as it pleases Him, 1Cor 15:38. Not the old one that harbors all that sin and shame and ugly past. When Jesus spoke to the heart of the demon possessed man of the Gadarenes (Mt 8:29-31), it was that man's will, choosing to believe Jesus, that made the demons flee! You need to desire to start anew. Jesus is who you need to hear and believe now.

I can tell you from my own experience that when you give God your life repenting of who you were and are, you will feel born again! you will feel innocent again! you will have the witness of the Sprit right in that moment of surrender! And it is sooo relieving to just turn your future over to His leading (through His word).

I'll pray for you, jaybird!

skypair

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

So my whole heart has to go with God no matter what happens to me.

If I am saved because I did all the vocal things I did is God now waiting for me to walk in his path?

I say and say this repent thing and never go anywhere. But yet I have this crying urge to leave and i don't know how

One cannot be a follower of Christ and not be a disciple. That is, he/she must learn from Him, praying to Him, studying His word, allowing Christ to live through his/her life. You can't just say, "Forgive me, Jesus," and go back to doing the same old thing. That won't cost you your salvation -- it's impossible to lose it -- but it will cost you relationship with Christ. This is when your guilt overwhelms your faith, your prayers don't seem to rise past the ceiling, and your best efforts avail you nothing.

Of course they won't! We're not supposed to do this walk on our own. It is a walk with Christ. That means all our faith, hope and trust is in Him. You put ourselves aside, seeking His will in our lives. We live our lives as He would live them, loving Him and loving others. It is simple, yet it is hard. When our first interest is in pleasing God and placing others' needs before our own, we prosper in Christ. But it is against our nature to do so. We have spent our entire lives putting ourselves first, doing what feels good, being comfortable, loving self.

Now that you belong to Christ, it is time to put Him and others first. Forsake your own pleasures and strive to make others' lives better, by loving them with thoughts, words and acts of kindness. What you want is secondary to acting in Christlikeness toward others.

 

[Jayblue1]

And we are praying for you. "Please have mercy on him and bless him!!!" Jesus cares about you more than you do!!! So, trust Him.

"And don't quit."

"'Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.'" (Matthew 11:28-30)

"It takes time to learn; all our lives we will be learning how to walk with Jesus, love any and all people, and do what He personally leads us to do > all the time > 'The LORD will guide you continually,' we have in Isaiah 58:11."

His "yoke", I believe, is His love and leading, in His peace.

You are not some special case who is the only one who cannot do what you need, while others have been able. We all have been failures and unable. We all have needed to humble ourselves to God, for all He alone is able to do with us.

And we are compassionate, knowing how we have not been able to get anything right, without God > "He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)

I am not sure about your last sentence.

 

[Jayblue1]

I wasn't totally ignorant when I felt I left God for it said on the internet that passage about unforgivable sin.

I was convicted, ran from fright, and full of doubt.

Thank you so much all all for the help. I have no support not even in family for this seriousness.

 

[Jayblue1]

if I shall fall away from my life, I do not want all of the things I write to go to waste. I want them to stay.


I have this odd feeling to do what the spirit says and quit my job and follow Christ for without God is nothing.

I honestly feel like being a vagrant and tying to help them.

I mean if I am to follow God wouldn't that mean giving up my worldly money?

 

[Jayblue1]

i do not want to be bound by satanic money. I want to be free.

Could my sanctification be based upon leaving it all? I am a very serious person and all conferences with God are secret.

I am trying to find out that if I leap off the bridge Jesus will catch me and I am about to

 

[skypair]

if I shall fall away from my life, I do not want all of the things I write to go to waste. I want them to stay.


I have this odd feeling to do what the spirit says and quit my job and follow Christ for without God is nothing.

I honestly feel like being a vagrant and tying to help them.

I mean if I am to follow God wouldn't that mean giving up my worldly money?

No, when you are saved, you already gave it into God's hands to do with, through you, what He wants to do. Now pray .. wait .. and listen. What are the doors that are open to you? even if you sold everything, you'd have to do it with some purpose in mind — not just being a bum.

One thing (and someone has suggested it already) is what I learned in the study titled "Experiencing God" by Blackaby. He said that if you trust God, go where you see Him working. It might be church or a small group where you have friends, neighbors, or fellow employees. You might want to counsel with a pastor — Baptist preferably. Right here on-line you can learn much.

While you are waiting for God to give you direction, be growing in the knowledge and understanding of scripture. That's the "mother's milk" of spiritual growth. God has a time for all believers in which He is merely preparing them to serve or for their life's work. College might not be out of the question, right?

The one thing that won't help is to sit around "navel gazing" all day. Go out and start living like the rest of us.

skypair

 

[com7fy8]

Hi, Jay Blue You say you are "not sure about" this >

And we are compassionate, knowing how we have not been able to get anything right, without God > "He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)

What I mean is that we Christians have had sin problems. And we have discovered that only God is able to correct us and heal us of our sin-sick stuff.

Only in His love we are safe >

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18)

So, we all need how only our Father can correct us and cure us in His love with His power almighty against evil and cruel things in us.

And we keep discovering how God has had compassion on us . . . in spite of our failures. So, now we can feel for others and have compassion for them, the way God has been merciful with us and has helped us.

"And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ has forgiven you." (Ephesians 4:32)

So, I mean that as you trust in Jesus and discover how He corrects you and makes you strong in love, then you will be able to feel for others and have compassion for them and help them, telling them how only God can correct and heal us to be strong in His love with His almighty immunity against cruel things in us.

You don't stay the way you are and control yourself, but we trust Jesus.

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, most of all, God wants you to give yourself to him.

But if you know that there is money you have been earning by means of a dishonest business or wrong product . . . first get with God so you can be creative with Him, about what you do.

I myself have lived out with the outdoor poor, as a missionary experiment. But a lot of the time I was just taking care of myself, while at times I reached to and shared with and helped others. I did do some rescues in the winter.

And I was taken care of better by God while I was out, than how I lived while I had a job and a place to stay. In my case, I was a loner-loser type; so being on the street had me out where I met and shared with a lot of people. So, for me it was good for turning me into more of a social person. But I have needed a lot of correction in how to relate with people; and it has helped me to be in churches where people would confront me and help me. It was painful and embarrassing, at times, but correction can be "painful" and "grievous", as Hebrews 12:7-11 says.

But I would say there were people who did things wrong with me. And I would get bent out of shape about it; but then it would come to me that I was not loving those people and praying in care for them like Jesus says to pray "for" people who don't treat us right (Matthew 5:44). So, I would seek God to correct me to get real in love.

I was the one who needed correction, instead of judging however others might be wrong. So I think I have come out more humble and caring and feeling for others and not trying to use people.

 

[OzSpen]

I just found this passage Matthew 3:28

"28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:"

Jay,

This is actually Mark 3:28-29 and not Matthew 3:28-29. Mk 3:28-29 states:

'Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin' (ESV).
​

I have read through this thread to page 4 and it seems to me that you are battling with whether or not you have committed a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for which there is no forgiveness. Why? Because such a person is guilty of an eternal sin?

What is the nature of this sin that has no forgiveness?

I consider that William Hendriksen's commentary on these 2 verses explains this blasphemous sin with no forgiveness as well as any I have read. He explains:

The question is, "How is it to be understood that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unpardonable?" As to other sins, no matter how grievous or gruesome, there is pardon for them. There is forgiveness for David's sin of adultery, dishonesty, and murder (II Sam. 12:13; Psalm 51; cf. Psalm 32); for the "many" sins of the woman of Luke 7; for the prodigal son's "riotous living" (Luke 15:13, 21-24); for Simon Peter's triple denial accompanied by profanity (Matt. 26:74, 75; Luke 22:31, 32; John 18:15-18, 25-27; 21:15-17); and for Paul's preconversion merciless persecution of Christians (Acts 9:1; 22:4; 26:9-11; I Cor. 15:9; Eph. 3:8; Phil. 3:6). But for the man who "speaks against the Holy Spirit" there is no pardon.

Why not? Here, as always when the text itself is not immediately clear, the historical context must be our guide. See Luke 11:15, 18; Mark 3:22; cf. John 7:20; 8:48, 52; 10:20. From it we learn that the bitter opponents of Jesus have been ascribing to Satan what the Holy Spirit, through Christ, was achieving. Moreover, they were doing this willfully, deliberately. In spite of all the evidences to the contrary they were still affirming that Jesus was expelling demons by the power of Beelzebul. Now to be forgiven implies that the sinner be truly penitent. Among the opponents such genuine sorrow for sin was totally lacking. For penitence they substituted hardening; for confession, plotting. Thus, by means of their own criminal and completely inexcusable callousness, they were dooming themselves. Their sin was unpardonable because they were unwilling to tread the path that leads to pardon. For a thief, an adulterer, and a murderer there is hope. The message of the gospel may cause him to cry out, "O God be merciful to me, the sinner." But when a man has become hardened, so that he has made up his mind not to pay any attention to the promptings of the Spirit, not even to listen to his pleading and warning voice, he has placed himself on the road that leads to perdition. He has sinned the sin "unto death" (I John 5:16; see also Heb. 6:4-8).

For anyone who is truly penitent, no matter how shameful his transgressions may have been, there is no reason to despair (Psalm 103:12; Isa. 1:18; 44:22; 55:6, 7; Mic. 7:18-20; I John 1:9) (Hendriksen 1975:138-139).

For you personally, are you presently and continuously ascribing to Satan what the Holy Spirit, through Christ, is doing in your or others' lives? In addition, are you continuing to do this willfully and deliberately?

Or, have you been so convicted of what you have been doing that you have come to Jesus in repentance to seek forgiveness for your sins? Do you have utter contrition for what you have been doing?

The fact that you are here on this forum discussing your sins and concern about the unpardonable sin indicates that you have not turned off the Holy Spirit's promptings. Please remember what Mark stated: 'All sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter' (Mk 2:28) EXCEPT one. That one thing for which there is no forgiveness is if you currently are willfully accusing Jesus of expelling demons and this is the work of Satan (Beelzebul).

I hope that this rather lengthy response in some way begins to deal with the issue you have raised that is personally impacting your life.

Sincerely in Christ,
Oz

Works consulted
Hendriksen, W 1975. New Testament commentary: Exposition of the Gospel according to Mark. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Academic.

 

[98cwitr]

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