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Hi! Just wanted to introduce myself like you wanted.... (Chris here.)

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Dear Everyone.

I'm a disabled guy looking for ways to explain all the strange discrepancies in the Bible. Like we're told to think of God and Jesus as people who love us - yet God murders millions in the Old Testament, encourages people to rape and pillage and hates disabled people - then suddenly, in the New Testament, Jesus turns up as someone who's supposed to love us. Until you reach Revelations, where he chucks the Seven Bowls at us after the Four Horsemen! I don't understand the sudden change of face.

And everyone says the Devil rules in Hell - apart from the Bible, where Revelations clearly states Jesus has the keys to Heaven AND Hell. And how you can get to Heaven at all when God only wants 144,000 people there (thanks, Jehovah's Witnesses!) That kinda thing. I don't understand why the message the preachers - who are, after all, God's spin-doctors - give us is so different from the one actually in the Bible itself.

That's why I'm here. I've read most of the Bible - not all the 'begats', true, but I know the old and new testaments pretty well. And the Apocrypha, which was included in the KJV Bible I got in a lovely 2nd-hand bookshop. THAT'S fascinating reading! God was merciless and hands-on in the Old Testament. He wasn't much different in the New Testament, not really, just a more kid-glove approach with Jesus doing the recruiting work for him.

That's the other thing I don't understand. Y'see, the Bible is the word of God. THAT, I do believe. So all we know about Azrael is what God tells us, he never has a chance to speak for himself much. He's supposed to be totally evil, yet God kills many times more people than Azrael does. And lots of things God calls 'sin' in the New Testament He actually ENCOURAGED in the Old Testament (have a look at Judges 21 for starters!)

Oh, well. The above's who I am and why I'm here. There's got to be a reason WHY so much changed between the two testaments.

My own fave. part of the Bible? Song of Solomon, KJV. You can't beat it, it's gorgeous. Fave fun fact? Out of many, the fact Shakespear helped translate it. He was 49 when he started work on it. Go to Psalm 49. 49 words down from the top - Shake. 49 words up from the bottom? Spear. That's not a coincidence - he managed to leave his name behind!

Do I love God? The affable old guy the preachers want us to believe in, with the Son who wants to make us all perfect - sure. Who wouldn't? The Deity who kills millions with the suspiciously schizoid Son who wants to chuck Horsemen and Bowls and Plagues at us after saying how much He loves us - I might take a bit of convincing on that one.

Feel free to start convincing me!

Yours respectfully

Chris.
 

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Dear Everyone.

I'm a disabled guy looking for ways to explain all the strange discrepancies in the Bible. Like we're told to think of God and Jesus as people who love us - yet God murders millions in the Old Testament, encourages people to rape and pillage and hates disabled people - then suddenly, in the New Testament, Jesus turns up as someone who's supposed to love us. Until you reach Revelations, where he chucks the Seven Bowls at us after the Four Horsemen! I don't understand the sudden change of face.

And everyone says the Devil rules in Hell - apart from the Bible, where Revelations clearly states Jesus has the keys to Heaven AND Hell. And how you can get to Heaven at all when God only wants 144,000 people there (thanks, Jehovah's Witnesses!) That kinda thing. I don't understand why the message the preachers - who are, after all, God's spin-doctors - give us is so different from the one actually in the Bible itself.

That's why I'm here. I've read most of the Bible - not all the 'begats', true, but I know the old and new testaments pretty well. And the Apocrypha, which was included in the KJV Bible I got in a lovely 2nd-hand bookshop. THAT'S fascinating reading! God was merciless and hands-on in the Old Testament. He wasn't much different in the New Testament, not really, just a more kid-glove approach with Jesus doing the recruiting work for him.

That's the other thing I don't understand. Y'see, the Bible is the word of God. THAT, I do believe. So all we know about Azrael is what God tells us, he never has a chance to speak for himself much. He's supposed to be totally evil, yet God kills many times more people than Azrael does. And lots of things God calls 'sin' in the New Testament He actually ENCOURAGED in the Old Testament (have a look at Judges 21 for starters!)

Oh, well. The above's who I am and why I'm here. There's got to be a reason WHY so much changed between the two testaments.

My own fave. part of the Bible? Song of Solomon, KJV. You can't beat it, it's gorgeous. Fave fun fact? Out of many, the fact Shakespear helped translate it. He was 49 when he started work on it. Go to Psalm 49. 49 words down from the top - Shake. 49 words up from the bottom? Spear. That's not a coincidence - he managed to leave his name behind!

Do I love God? The affable old guy the preachers want us to believe in, with the Son who wants to make us all perfect - sure. Who wouldn't? The Deity who kills millions with the suspiciously schizoid Son who wants to chuck Horsemen and Bowls and Plagues at us after saying how much He loves us - I might take a bit of convincing on that one.

Feel free to start convincing me!

Yours respectfully

Chris.
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Welcome to the forums, I hope that you enjoy your time here and get some answers to the questions you have!
 
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Dear Everyone.

I'm a disabled guy looking for ways to explain all the strange discrepancies in the Bible. Like we're told to think of God and Jesus as people who love us - yet God murders millions in the Old Testament, encourages people to rape and pillage and hates disabled people - then suddenly, in the New Testament, Jesus turns up as someone who's supposed to love us. Until you reach Revelations, where he chucks the Seven Bowls at us after the Four Horsemen! I don't understand the sudden change of face.

And everyone says the Devil rules in Hell - apart from the Bible, where Revelations clearly states Jesus has the keys to Heaven AND Hell. And how you can get to Heaven at all when God only wants 144,000 people there (thanks, Jehovah's Witnesses!) That kinda thing. I don't understand why the message the preachers - who are, after all, God's spin-doctors - give us is so different from the one actually in the Bible itself.

That's why I'm here. I've read most of the Bible - not all the 'begats', true, but I know the old and new testaments pretty well. And the Apocrypha, which was included in the KJV Bible I got in a lovely 2nd-hand bookshop. THAT'S fascinating reading! God was merciless and hands-on in the Old Testament. He wasn't much different in the New Testament, not really, just a more kid-glove approach with Jesus doing the recruiting work for him.

That's the other thing I don't understand. Y'see, the Bible is the word of God. THAT, I do believe. So all we know about Azrael is what God tells us, he never has a chance to speak for himself much. He's supposed to be totally evil, yet God kills many times more people than Azrael does. And lots of things God calls 'sin' in the New Testament He actually ENCOURAGED in the Old Testament (have a look at Judges 21 for starters!)

Oh, well. The above's who I am and why I'm here. There's got to be a reason WHY so much changed between the two testaments.

My own fave. part of the Bible? Song of Solomon, KJV. You can't beat it, it's gorgeous. Fave fun fact? Out of many, the fact Shakespear helped translate it. He was 49 when he started work on it. Go to Psalm 49. 49 words down from the top - Shake. 49 words up from the bottom? Spear. That's not a coincidence - he managed to leave his name behind!

Do I love God? The affable old guy the preachers want us to believe in, with the Son who wants to make us all perfect - sure. Who wouldn't? The Deity who kills millions with the suspiciously schizoid Son who wants to chuck Horsemen and Bowls and Plagues at us after saying how much He loves us - I might take a bit of convincing on that one.

Feel free to start convincing me!

Yours respectfully

Chris.
Hi Chris
It's great that you have joined us. Hope you will enjoy CF!
 
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Hello Chris, welcome to CF.
I hope you'll enjoy your stay here.

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Dear Everyone.

I'm a disabled guy looking for ways to explain all the strange discrepancies in the Bible. Like we're told to think of God and Jesus as people who love us - yet God murders millions in the Old Testament, encourages people to rape and pillage and hates disabled people - then suddenly, in the New Testament, Jesus turns up as someone who's supposed to love us. Until you reach Revelations, where he chucks the Seven Bowls at us after the Four Horsemen! I don't understand the sudden change of face.

And everyone says the Devil rules in Hell - apart from the Bible, where Revelations clearly states Jesus has the keys to Heaven AND Hell. And how you can get to Heaven at all when God only wants 144,000 people there (thanks, Jehovah's Witnesses!) That kinda thing. I don't understand why the message the preachers - who are, after all, God's spin-doctors - give us is so different from the one actually in the Bible itself.

That's why I'm here. I've read most of the Bible - not all the 'begats', true, but I know the old and new testaments pretty well. And the Apocrypha, which was included in the KJV Bible I got in a lovely 2nd-hand bookshop. THAT'S fascinating reading! God was merciless and hands-on in the Old Testament. He wasn't much different in the New Testament, not really, just a more kid-glove approach with Jesus doing the recruiting work for him.

That's the other thing I don't understand. Y'see, the Bible is the word of God. THAT, I do believe. So all we know about Azrael is what God tells us, he never has a chance to speak for himself much. He's supposed to be totally evil, yet God kills many times more people than Azrael does. And lots of things God calls 'sin' in the New Testament He actually ENCOURAGED in the Old Testament (have a look at Judges 21 for starters!)

Oh, well. The above's who I am and why I'm here. There's got to be a reason WHY so much changed between the two testaments.

My own fave. part of the Bible? Song of Solomon, KJV. You can't beat it, it's gorgeous. Fave fun fact? Out of many, the fact Shakespear helped translate it. He was 49 when he started work on it. Go to Psalm 49. 49 words down from the top - Shake. 49 words up from the bottom? Spear. That's not a coincidence - he managed to leave his name behind!

Do I love God? The affable old guy the preachers want us to believe in, with the Son who wants to make us all perfect - sure. Who wouldn't? The Deity who kills millions with the suspiciously schizoid Son who wants to chuck Horsemen and Bowls and Plagues at us after saying how much He loves us - I might take a bit of convincing on that one.

Feel free to start convincing me!

Yours respectfully

Chris.

Welcome to CF, Chris. Thankful you are here. I pray you find some answers. It is good to ask them, but I'd pray for wisdom and discernment and to have an open mind while seeking.
 
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