The Germ Theory of Disease makes me doubt the belief that demons cause infectious disease. Therefore, the Germ Theory of Disease must be false.
Do you see a problem with that argument?
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Now see - we have someone other than me -- and one or two other non-atheists here - - with posts addressing the issue in the OP.
The Germ Theory of Disease makes me doubt the belief that demons cause infectious disease. Therefore, the Germ Theory of Disease must be false.
Do you see a problem with that argument?
Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT... were the OT writers simply writing what they "thought" and the way they "felt" about God, and not in an actual words God actually said..
Well, my problem is I believe the scientific evidence which casts doubt on some of the Bible writers, BUT, I have too much personal experiencial evidence of a God and other spirits existing on another side beside this one...
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...periencing-part-of-a-pm-conversation.7843548/
My personal experiencial evidence stands on it's very own as enough proof for me, but have I encountered the same God (YHWH) spoke about in the OT, some OT acts and verses by God cast a shadow of a doubt on him being a or the God of Love...
Anyone help?
God Bless!
What you are feeling, doubting and second guessing, is the EXACT purpose of the TOE. It is designed to remove God from being at the start of the existence of everything, creating everything.
What you are feeling, doubting and second guessing, is the EXACT purpose of the TOE. It is designed to remove God from being at the start of the existence of everything, creating everything.
All the while, it has not one sniff of where life came from in the first place.
In fact, don't even ask them where life came from. They want none of that.
They want to tell you what happened after this one miraculous organism magically appeared with protein, enzymes, DNA, the ability to replicate, the ability to eat, mitochondria, cell membranes, endoplasmic reticulum..... everything there is in a single celled organism just "poofed" into a puddle.
Basically, the TOE is Satan's plan.
He tells lie upon lie with just enough truth mixed in that you cannot tell the difference....
The Germ Theory of Disease makes me doubt the belief that demons cause infectious disease.
It's been pointed out countless times in this thread that this is a quote mine.
Even if Dawkins were saying what you so desperately want him to be saying, he'd be wrong and evolution would still be true.
Bob, answer me this. Would you like to discuss the evidence for evolution instead of rejecting it out of hand ad nauseum?
By defining the term as "anything that believers in evolutionism find inconvenient" --
And it is has been pointed out countless times - objective unbiased readers do not go for such nonsensical self-serving definitions.
Explain why objective thinkers reject the mythology that - "a pile of dirt is sure-enough going to turn into a rabbit over time - given a sufficiently large pile of dirt over a sufficiently talented and long period of time - filled with improbable just-so-stories”
Explain why "prokaryotes never turn into eukaryotes no matter how many millions of generations we observe them?"
Explain why "the Eurey Miller experiment utterly failed to produce viable amino acid building blocks - due to results having randomly distributed chiral orientation of the product amino acids"??
Explain why "junk science confirmed frauds fill the history of junk-science evolutionism over the past 150 years"??
Explain why "Osborn is praised for lying to, and hiding truth from his readers -- to this very day - over at TalkOrigins"??
Explain why "the high-priests of evolutionism - their own well-known scientists, professors and authors LAMENT the distinctively religious and anti-knowledge nature of their own field of study"??
Explain why that sort of junk-religion is not worth adopting -- with its explicit risk of getting you into the Rev 20 lake of fire??
No, Bob. This has been explained to you countless times yet you continue to be dishonest.
From the very same chapter
What about our own bodies? Each one of us is a machine, like an airliner only much more complicated.
were our parts assembled by a skilled engineer? The answer is no" (Page 3)
This isn't what evolution claims.
This is a strawman. You've been told this before. Stop being dishonest.
Fossil records show that eukaryotes evolved from prokaryotes about 2 billion years ago. This is through a process of endosymbiosis.
But to your question -- you want me to explain why I reject blind-faith evolutionism?
Explain why objective thinkers reject the mythology that - "a pile of dirt is sure-enough going to turn into a rabbit over time - given a sufficiently large pile of dirt over a sufficiently talented and long period of time - filled with improbable just-so-stories”
Explain why "prokaryotes never turn into eukaryotes no matter how many millions of generations we observe them?"
Explain why "the Eurey Miller experiment utterly failed to produce viable amino acid building blocks - due to results having randomly distributed chiral orientation of the product amino acids"??
Explain why "junk science confirmed frauds fill the history of junk-science evolutionism over the past 150 years"??
Explain why "Osborn is praised for lying to, and hiding truth from his readers -- to this very day - over at TalkOrigins"??
Explain why "the high-priests of evolutionism - their own well-known scientists, professors and authors LAMENT the distinctively religious and anti-knowledge nature of their own field of study"??
Explain why "Othaniel Marsh' junk-science hoax and confirmed fraud horse series is STILL on display at the Smithsonian over 50 years after being publically admitted as a fraud?"?? (We know WHY they do that - it is for emotional "effect" - which is the basis of their speculative arguments all along).
Explain why that sort of junk-religion is not worth adopting -- with its explicit risk of getting you into the Rev 20 lake of fire??
We need to "explain that"??
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Explain why objective thinkers reject the mythology that - "a pile of dirt is sure-enough going to turn into a rabbit over time - given a sufficiently large pile of dirt over a sufficiently talented and long period of time - filled with improbable just-so-stories”
It is exactly - what atheist evolutionists "are stuck with" - and other than "wishing" do you have an actual fact showing that instead of starting with the "big pile of dirt" you actually start with "God creating amoebas on planet Earth" or .. some "detail"???
How odd that your response for how blind faith evolutionism proposes we get "rabbits" -- does not address your atheist starting point.
Instead of pointing to a single "detail" in the scenario you simply "game the point"
still gaming??? please present an actual fact - a detail.
Show us your "other starting point" other than the one in the scenario as atheist -- we all know -- you have none.
Hint - no fossil record showing transition of anything for bacteria to eukaryote.
50,000 generations of bacteria prove that evolution never stops
http://io9.gizmodo.com/50-000-generations-of-bacteria-prove-that-evolution-nev-1466803805
And YET never gets bacteria to become eukaryote!!
It's an explanation for the diversity of life. It has nothing to say about the existence or non existence of a God. Unless you can find scientific research regarding the theory of evolution that explicitly states it it removes the existence of a God, then you are misrepresenting the theory. That is dishonest.
Nor does it try to explain it. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. So, you're right, it doesn't have anything to say about it because evolution is about the diversity of life not the origin. Do you also reject the germ theory of disease because it doesn't explain where germs came from?
You can ask it all you want. I don't mind. My answer is 'I don't know'. That is the most intellectually honest answer one can give to questions they do not have the answer to. Unless you can provide verifiable and testable evidence to this question, you also do not know the answer. Abiogenesis is an interesting study completely separate from evolution theory.
That's what evolution is. You clearly don't understand it. It explains the diversity of life. How populations of organisms change over time. This is supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence from several independent disciplines. If you want to talk abiogenesis, then open a new thread. The unanswered question for life's origin doesn't threaten evolution in the least bit. Who said anything about a single celled organism "poofing" into existence in a puddle? By the way, we've observed self replicating RNA enzymes in the lab. http://www.cell.com/chemistry-biology/abstract/S1074-5521(13)00426-2
The understanding of evolution has contributed to advancements in modern medicine. Are you going to reject vaccinations because they are made possible by our understanding of evolution?
Evolution is demonstrably true and is supported by an abundance of facts and contradicted by none.
Who told you that?
It is quite obvious.
People who doubt that there is a God or absolutely deny the existence of God, grab on to the TOE with both hands and fight tooth and nail to keep it on the podium as the only reasonable explanation for the universe, the existence of life and the events that resulted in the world of organisms and species that we have today.
Any other option for these things is ridiculed, discredited, condescended, and ousted while the person presenting said option is insulted and called a fool.
The TOE is one of the great deceptions that will even fool some of the elect.
With the TOE, God is totally not necessary and we are just moving forward at the speed of time in a direction determined totally by chance and random factors.
As such, humans are just the end result of a system with no preconceived plan or purpose, which means humans and the human race were not created for any plan or purpose, which means that you, yourself, are just here due to random circumstance with no real reason, purpose or plan. You just exist because you exist. End of a godless story.
The truth is..... God had a plan, a purpose for everything.
The universe, the sun, the moon, the earth and every creature on it. He created the earth and each specific creature with a special design and purpose. He cares and feeds every living creature and organism. He is saddened when one of them goes extinct.
But most of all, YOU are a living soul. YOU were planned by God at the beginning of this creation.
You are created and exist with a preconceived plan and purpose and your creator loves you and all humans more than any of His creations. Even the angels...
So, is the TOE meant to rid the world of any sniff of an all powerful, loving, caring God?
Is it meant to remove any purpose and meaning for your life?
Is it meant to deceive you into believing that heaven and hell are just scary bed time stories?
Is it one of Satan's best woven plans, perpetuated by the humans who consider themselves to be of great intellect and wisdom, to convince you that he doesn't exist and there is no judgement or day of atonement?
Of course it is. The TOE is "Genesis According to Satan".
That's such an unnecessary and ignorant question....Including gods besides your own?
You are right, IMO, disease could be natural causes or supernatural..Bible reading make me believe that the Bible gives two distinct scenarios where healing took place -- in some cases it says it is disease and sickness... in other places it says that demons are involved -- depending on cases.
of course your eye-witness diagnosis as to which was which is presumably better than the Bible since you are 2000 years removed from the event.
Do you see a problem with your argument?
That's such an unnecessary and ignorant question....
Can't you make just a little effort to get to understand what you disagree with?
sigh...
You seem like a nice person though.
I disagree.Nothing ignorant or unnecessary about it.
I disagree.
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