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I'm not sure if this has anything to do with my post, but what I'm saying is, the most important thing that any of us will do in our lives is decide that Jesus is God and come to Him, or decide that He was just a lunatic, or worse yet, a "guru" or "spiritual guide or teacher". People all have different individual stumbling blocks keeping them from flying into the arms of Jesus Christ, and it is an act of will and faith that is different for all of us to get over whatever those stumbling blocks are, because if we don't, we're missing out on The Way, The Truth and The Life. For some, that stumbling block is a problem with the Old Testament of the Bible. If that is a person's stumbling block, as it was for me at first, I was recommending what worked for me, and that was to approach the Old Testament at first THROUGH Christ. (The New Testament, The living Word of God). Once I had gotten past the harder part of that, THEN I went into a more focused study, and leaned about modes of literature, types of books, the context of the times, hyperbole, typology, etc. etc. etc. But to this day, what is most important to me about the OT, is that Jesus inspired it through His Holy Spirit, and quoted it all during the incarnation. So if one can start with cross referencing His quotes from the Torah and Talmud, then that might be ONE method of beginning to approach some of the Old Testament books. Then once one is secure in the fact they all essentially point to Christ, and become more secure in their faith in Christ, and if one prays for increases in faith, hope and charity, then the stumbling blocks one might trip over in the OT will be removed, and we may better understand what the proper take away is from OT Scripture is in reference to the Word becoming flesh and living among us. Your mileage may vary. It was a helpful approach for me in my individual journey to Jesus.
The #1 problem with creationists and other fundamentalists is not understanding the literary genres in the bible.
Yeah that's exactly what my mom said. She's a minister & does not believe in giants, a flat earth, dinosaurs & man coexisting, and all the rest of that stuff cause she understands the literary genres.
You can live in a unrealistic, egotistical world if you like to, but the facts still remain.
Maybe you should take it up with some of the Nobel Peace Prize winners
Charles H. Townes (1915-2015): In 1964 he won the Nobel Prize in Physics and in 1966 he wrote The Convergence of Science and Religion.[164][165]
Charles H. Townes (1915-2015): In 1964 he won the Nobel Prize in Physics and in 1966 he wrote The Convergence of Science and Religion.[164][165]
I have a BS in Biblical Studies...and the creation story is a myth...just like every other ancient culture has a creation myth. Essentially, the first few chapters of Genesis is a myth...no different from Beowulf. The history doesn't start until Abraham. There is some dispute regarding the authorship of Genesis...however, it is not meant to be taken literally...I'll get around to posting what the different genres are in each book of the bible...if I can find the paper. We're in the middle of moving...blech!
As much as Darwinism is applied to science. Both are faith based systems.
We have the evidence. No need for faith.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Also, are you saying that faith is bad? Are you trying to say that evolution is as bad as creationism because it uses faith too?
We have the evidence. No need for faith.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Also, are you saying that faith is bad? Are you trying to say that evolution is as bad as creationism because it uses faith too?
Actually, Loudmouth, all endeavors entail faith. If you just sit down in a chair, that is an act of faith, you going on your faith in the chair. Did you test it to see if it would hold you? No way. And don't give me the old argument that y don't have to test it, because you know for a fact (no faith involved here) it won't break. More than one of us has sat down in a chair presumed solid, only to have it collapse under us. All knowledge, and this most especially includes science, requires some degree of speculating beyond the facts, hence, a kind of leap of faith. Matter of fact, there is no way to scientifically verify the verification principle, which underlies modern science.
Nobody's ever shown one solitary single reference in the link concerning the 'how' of Darwinist evolution. Not one.
Do you rely on faith, the lights will go on when you flip the switch?
Is the problem that you have a science nystagmus?
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