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There were not chapter and verse divisions in the Biblical texts until way after Christ.
 
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Steve Petersen said:
There were not chapter and verse divisions in the Biblical texts until way after Christ.
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The canon of the New Testament scriptures was not put together until hundreds of years after the books were written, since it didn't happen immediately, by the same reasoning, the canon itself was not orchestrated by the Almighty and can not be trusted.

I serve the God for which nothing is impossible, how about you?

My God is always working to accomplish His Plan, He neither sleeps nor slumbers in the process.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
 
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What you mean is that God inspired the chapter and verse divisions centuries after the originals were written without them?

BTW, chapter and verse divisions are different in many places in the Masoretic OT texts than in Christian translations derived from them. Heck, even in the NT there are differences between the number of verses between various NT manuscripts. In some places, whole sections of NT texts are not in some translations, the Johanine comma for example.
 
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Acts 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.


Total ~ 5510

5510| Deu 23:9 When The Host goeth forth against thine enemies, then keep thee from every wicked thing.


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1) 380| Gen 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

2) 380861 ~ 7637| 1Sa 17:18 And carry these ten cheeses unto the captain of their thousand, and look how thy brethren fare, and take their pledge.

3) 38086158 ~ 17310| Pro 31:25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

4) 38086158650 ~ 17938| Isa 14:9 Sheul from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

5) 38086158650108 ~ 23356| Mat 8:10 When YESHUA heard it, He marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

6) 3808615865010831 ~ 2981| Lev 10:3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is It that YHWH spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh Me, and before all the people I will be Glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

7) 3808615865010831641 ~ 26951| Act 2:1 And when the day of Shavuot was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

8) 3808615865010831641420 ~ 17088| Pro 24:8 He that deviseth to do evil shall be called a mischievous person.

9) 3808615865010831641420278 ~ 13280| Job 18:3 Wherefore are we counted as beasts, and reputed vile in your sight?

10) 3808615865010831641420278508 ~ 31056| Rev 21:2 And I John saw The Holy City, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

11) 3808615865010831641420278508366 ~ 16570| Pro 6:29 So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.

12) 38086158650108316414202785083661209 ~ 20855| Eze 18:5 But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

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Ezekiel 18:6

And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,

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The evidence proves that it was His plan to have exactly 31102 verses in His word, who made man's mind, He is not limited whatsoever to accomplish His purposes no matter how long a time was set to do it.

Differences yes, But that makes no difference to what is being presented here, red herring fallacy, a distraction to divert attention from what Is Shown.
 
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It is not a distraction. If your premise is faulty, the rest is meaningless. For your theory to work, you assume from the start that God inspired the chapter and verse divisions of a particular manuscript which didn't have any to start with.
 
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It is not a distraction. If your premise is faulty, the rest is meaningless. For your theory to work, you assume from the start that God inspired the chapter and verse divisions of a particular manuscript which didn't have any to start with.
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And if your premise is that He could not or would not do such a work as this, no amount of evidence will convince you otherwise.
 
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And if your premise is that He could not or would not do such a work as this, no amount of evidence will convince you otherwise.
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God can do anything. Doesn't mean He did this. The burden of proof is on you. Looks to me like your case is based on two logical fallacies: the Goddidit and the Argument from Incredulity.
 
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There are some very good reasons to honor the Sabbath, set-it apart from the rest of the week.

Each day of the creation week, (Seven days)

1 Day = 1000 years future.

The Seventh day is the Millennium, The First Resurrection

The Eighth day is eternity, the New Heavens and Earth.

So by keeping the Sabbath, the Believer is a shadow of the Seventh day, The Millennium, The Covenant of Peace Ezekiel 37:26, when He will reign on the earth, from Jerusalem Isaiah 2:3 and if any nation then does not keep the commandments, they will not have any rain. Zechariah 14:17

Hebrews 4:9
Therefore remains a Keeping Sabbath for the people of God

Sabbatismos A keeping Sabbath

To be a part of the First Resurrection, To reign with Him during the Covenant of Peace....... Revelation 20:6, Isaiah 58:13-14
 
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