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Erichero

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Ok, I'm big into this whole "out with dating, in with courtship" thing. I have never gone out with another girl in my life, and I'm proud of it.

Here's the story ... it's pretty cool actually.

Four years ago, I was having my quiet time, and I just felt God was giving some kind of weird "block" about a girl I knew. It was kind of weird because I knew her (more like an acquaintance), but I had never considered her at all and I didn't have any issues with her.

It stayed for several days, and after a while I thought, okay, maybe God is trying to say something about her and me. So for a while I thought about whether it might make sense or not. And just about everything did. I've got a fantastic relationship with lots of people in her extended family. Her Dad even called me over at work on my 21st birthday to pray blessing over me like a father would (how weird is that?). We are both called to ministry in worship and we used to lead Sunday School worship together. She has an amazing passion for God. If I were to say, "God's called us to go to Mongolia", she's the kind that we say "Cool! When are we leaving?" (how many others could say that?). She's very pretty with a beautiful figure and dresses in a way that I find very attractive. She's a good talker and I'm a good listener. We're both very creative.

So, because she was 6 years younger than me, and because it wasn't the right time, I prayed and thought about it for the last four years!

My big question was whether we could actually get on and be best friends. I should mention here that I study at a university a thousand miles away from home and from where she stays. Anyway, when I went home two years ago, we got to lead an outdoor kids camp together, and I said God, this is a big test of this. And we got on so well, it was really cool!

So, four years later, I feel it's time to make a move.

I spoke to my brother, and he was a bit shocked at first, but he though it was cool. Now my plan when I get home is to speak to my parents and then to the girl's father. That may surprise some of you, but that's the proper way to go about it. Her father is actually quite strict about this and has intervened before in another relationship she had. I'm sure he'll have plenty of good advice if he thinks I'm on the right track.

Now I asked some friends (Christian girls) about this, because I thought that in some round-about way that I would mention to this girl something along the lines that I felt God was speaking about us being together. But they said No! They would run away. Their advice was to start off as friends, and then build things nice and slowly and so on.

Ok, that's all a little bit weird, because it's going to seem a little bit weird saying "Hey, you want to be friends?" Ehem, I think that will sound full of "please read between the lines".

So how would you go about it ... dive in the deep end, tip toe around the shallow end?
 

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Do you mean that you are going to ask her father if the two of you can date or are you popping the big question of marriage without dating? I think it's honorable to ask the father if you can marry his daughter, but I also think it's important to date and get to know somebody before getting married.
 
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So how would you go about it ... dive in the deep end, tip toe around the shallow end?

I think you have made a God-honouring decision to wait those four years. The question is now, do you know whether God is speaking to you to take it further? I would say that if you are unsure, take the advice of as many Christian friends as you can, until most of them are in favour of you starting a relationship. God certainly speaks to us through other people. And if or when you are sure, I would advise you to take it slowly - a gradual process generally seems to be the way to go.

Of course, I'm not really in the position to be handing out advice. I'm only 17 and haven't been in a relationship before. Although I have currently put one off as I know that God has been saying 'not just yet'. I'm waiting until I see the 'all clear' - so you might want to do the same.
 
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Sounds good so far. If you're up for the commitment, approach her father and tell him that you'd like to court his daughter. It's seeing each other with the intention of marriage - not just having a girlfriend for the fun of it. You'd be giving her dad a chance to set some rules if he wants to and most fathers respect that question anyway. Eventually, as you gain his trust, hopefully, you'll be given more freedom in the relationship. This is sorta how things went/are going with me and the girl I'm courting. You can always get your parents and her parents together as well and at least start some discussion.

The best advice that I can give and easiest to follow is: Pray about it, tell God what you think and ask Him to help start things rolling. If it's his will things will start happening.

The whole age thing is nothing to worry about. I'm courting a girl 5 years younger than myself, but seeing us together you wouldn't notice.
 
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I certainly would not tell her you think God is telling you to be together, that would be kind of scary for even a serious Christian! Just trust God to bring it around and keep what you think God is telling you to yourself until the day you ask her to marry you, and then tell her. Personally I recommend not asking any loaded questions like "want to be good friends?" If her dad is really that strict/old fashioned go see him and ask him if it is okay for you two to date. But ask him if he would let you talk to her about it and keep it secret for a while. Then, just call her up and talk to her like a normal friend. Do this often enough not to be annoying but to see if there is any "chemistry." Let it happen. If you get closer, plan a trip to go see her, and then tell her how you feel about her. But for now, just focus on talking to her more often to see if the potential you see develops.
 
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Good advice all round. Thanks!

Well, if I go to the father first, I will say that I think the basic motivation now is that I feel like God is pointing towards marriage, but I want to test the relationship to see if we can get on at all, even as friends.

How you "just be friends" when you don't see each other or even go to the same church is rather tricky and I don't yet see quite how I'm going to do it. I think to some extent I'm going to have to dive in somewhere and take a few risks, being sensitive obviously.

I'm sure the father will have some good tips as well, given that he knows his daughter best.
 
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I personally would not want someone to ask my father first if they could date me, that's a decision that I would like to make. But that's just me. Dating is a must before considering marriage, in my opinion as well. No matter if 2 people are extremely strong christians, if they get married before knowing each other, it cause some really bad problems, from what I've seen. I also would not say that you think God wants the 2 of you to be married, just yet. You haven't even been dating yet. That would be wierd, to me. If you guys had dated for a long time, then it is an applicable statement.
 
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Erichero said:
How you "just be friends" when you don't see each other or even go to the same church is rather tricky and I don't yet see quite how I'm going to do it. I think to some extent I'm going to have to dive in somewhere and take a few risks, being sensitive obviously.
It can be done. I started to get to know a girl on-line who lived 3000 miles away. We started talking on the phone and it progressed from there. We met in person, and eventualy she moved down to my state for college. We took it slow and it still worked really well. Even with the distance. I would only caution you to be very very slow. Younger women are usualy not ready for serious commitment in my experience.
 
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