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I've been posting mainly in the bipolar forum. I posted a few times here and come back from time to time to read your posts. It's been encouraging to know that others have dealt with the same insanity. I am bipolar and was in the mental hospital early 2008 after a General Practitioner (not a pdoc) gave me an antidepressant that sent me manic.
Over time I've had more and more problems with OCD, with everything from blasphemous thoughts to fears of losing salvation, not unlike many here. Grantley Morris' net-burst website has provided me with some help in these areas; it's helped to see that the enemy wants me to get so freaked out about the dark thoughts that I doubt Christ's work on the cross. The verses about ALL of our sins being covered by the blood of Christ he has on there are great.
About 2 weeks ago I started tapering off a dose of a mood stabilizer and it's been much harder than usual. I've had racing thoughts since then - it's been like having OCD/dark thoughts on steriods. A fear thought gets in there and then plays at 78 rpm.

I can't take anti-depressants (have been through 10) because they do far more damage than good, which is what usually happens with BP.

Any tips for coping are appreciated. My (Christian) therapist last week recommended The OCD workbook, and I've read a bit about CBT. Grantley Morris likens it to "letting the spiders crawl all over you" and "resisting the anxiety instead of the thoughts." I've had a hard time doing this and have been more apt to quote Scripture to counter the dark thoughts, but there are times when it's like a crazy mental ping pong ball match. I spend time in God's word every morning to get my head screwed on straight... I can't imagine my day without it.
 

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welcome my friend and brother in CHRIST.... you will find many on here in your same situation or ones who have been there....you must believe that if GOD is a good GOD (and HE IS) then theres no way HE is going to drop you because you have thoughts that YOU DONT WANT !!!!! BUT, I UNDERSTAND ALL TOO WELL YOUR FEELINGS ...i , like you read my bible daily and give all my thoughts and fears to HIM .. EVERYDAY......
we must remember HE IS ALREADY AT the end as HE was at the beginning, so HE knows everything we have or will go thru.... HE knows our faith is weak, and our fears are real to us, and HE LOVEs US anyways.... since HE alreaady knows the end then the very fact that you are concerned and searching for HIM and doing your best to get thru all this, thats your proof that YOU ARE HIS.... no one comes to JEsus except those the FATHER draws.... well... you deffinetely have been drawn, and like i said HE already knows how its gonna end.... and you are safe in your spirit... THIS IS ALL A BATTLE OF THE MIND...... and yep between the war going on and ocd..... its quite a fight... but i dont believe its a spiritual fight altho it feels like one....

stay strong in the struggle and welcome

pj
 
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Thanks for asking. Umm, I have my ups and downs. It's a daily struggle. Since making the medication adjustments (downward) I'm still having problems with racing thoughts, which makes it harder than usual; hoping I even out sometime soon. Once the wrong thought gets in there it takes a while before it gets sorted out. I have to work at focusing on other things, especially God's truth. Why is it that it's the dark thoughts that cause the OCD, couldn't it be good ones...? :)
 
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Thanks for asking. Umm, I have my ups and downs. It's a daily struggle. Since making the medication adjustments (downward) I'm still having problems with racing thoughts, which makes it harder than usual; hoping I even out sometime soon. Once the wrong thought gets in there it takes a while before it gets sorted out. I have to work at focusing on other things, especially God's truth. Why is it that it's the dark thoughts that cause the OCD, couldn't it be good ones...? :)
praying for you~~:prayer:
 
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i know what you mean... we ALL do on here....so, at that point i just say "LORD, i cant do this.. i dont understand and so i have to trust that since YOU are soo much larger and wiser, etc, than me , then YOU know my heart and you know what troubles me.. YOU know every thought or question i have... so YOU know i DONT want to feel the way i do..... and since YOU made me, YOU knew that i would struggle with this... so i give it to you(i sometimes do this everyday) .... really in the end thats all we can do, you know?? is just give it over to HIM...and trust tht HE knows us better than we know ourselves...


stay strong in the struggle...

pj
 
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we are alll gonna make it.... GOD isnt going to turn away those of us searching so hard for answers and coming to HIM in the best way we know how......thats alll he asks that we turn toward HIM, not away,, and every post i read shows that we all want HIM soo bad.....so HE knows our mental struggles... heck HE knew about them before we did!! so we just gotta keep on keepin on..... He tells us to fight the good fight... AND WE ARe....TOGETHeR....


love in HIM...

pj
 
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take a deep breath... its very consistent with what ocd does.... im so sorry you are having a tuff day :(

you arent alone..... just keep remembering that you dont want these thoughts ...and GOD is wayyy bigger than them..... He isnt going to hold anything against you that you cant control.....

and most of all.. HE LOVES YOU.....


ocd is so time consuming huh??

your sis in CHRIST,

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Hi Michael...just wanted to say welcome to a lovely place...I've find it to be such a comfort and support! I'm sorry you're struggling...I pray God will use this place to help you get to a more peaceful level. What you said about Grantley Morris saying let the spiders crawl all over you really speaks volumes about OCD. I am arachnophobic and really it's not unlike OCD but as a loose canon. Maybe that doesn't make sense but it's like the OCD is hidden feelings so much of the time...terrible emotions that are squished down...whereas the spider fear is all that hidden fear up front an personal. Hope that makes sense....take care and hope you're doing OK tonight...Rachel
 
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pj, yes, ocd is time consuming. And energy consuming. There are days when I just feel tired mentally from all it involves.

Thanks Rachel, this is a lovely place. I remember G. Morris saying that OCD is a fear/anxiety disorder, and, like you said, to let the thoughts run their course. It's easier said than done at times.
 
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pj, yes, ocd is time consuming. And energy consuming. There are days when I just feel tired mentally from all it involves.

Thanks Rachel, this is a lovely place. I remember G. Morris saying that OCD is a fear/anxiety disorder, and, like you said, to let the thoughts run their course. It's easier said than done at times.


thats why i dont understand how some people believe that it can just be ignored .
 
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me either keryakos... i cant ignore it...

HOWEVER... i can live easier with it at times...by just accepting it and going on with my life....
getting my mind on something else ...ANYTHING else for awhile helps sometimes... even coming on here and talkin to yall makes things better...

im glad to have found a group like this....we can pour our hearts out to people who really understand and help....whereas so many people that have never had ocd cannot begin to understand....

i am better... much better, but i dont know if it ever really goes away.... but...

WE MUST STAY STAY STRONG... thats what GOD wants... not for us to cower, but STAND STRONG , no matter what we are feeling in our minds.... i KNOW its super hard, but we have each other and we can lift each other up.....

there are so many people that dont even give GOD a second thought.... they dont even try to believe ..well..

I WOULDNT TRADE PLACES WITH THEM FOR ANYTHING... I WOULD RATHER BE IN OCD FOGGINESS THE REST OF MY LIFE THAN BE LIKE THAT THEY HAVE NO HOPE....
AND WE HAVE ALLLLLLL HOPE AND PROMISE IN CHRIST :)




PJ
 
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I've been struggling with blasphemous thoughts since last night while in church and through this morning. Been praying a lot and asking for God's help (and confessing any sin that's my responsibility), could use prayer. What seems to have triggered it is reading a book on trials that talked about God's love and then it sparked it. Zephaniah 3:17 talks about God "singing over us with joy" and I think I had a hard time accepting it yesterday.
 
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