• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Hezekiah Holbrooke

Active Member
Nov 25, 2014
196
6
81
✟402.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
I CORINTHIANS 15:6 After that he was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. (NKJV)

They all died and are in their graves.


DANIEL 12:13 "But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days." (NKJV)

Daniel, another great saint, is dead and in his grave. Daniel is not in Heaven.

DANIEL 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt. (NKJV)

They are all dead and in their graves when the resurrections occur. They are neither in Heaven or in Hell awaiting the resurrection from there.

ISAIAH 26:19 Your dead shall live; together with my dead body they shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; for your dew is like the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. (NKJV)

Isaiah even declares that the dead are in the earth, not in Heaven or in Hell but are in their graves awaiting the resurrections.

JOHN 5:28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29 and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment. (RSV)

John plainly declares that all the dead are in their tombs, neither in Hell or in Heaven, and are awaiting the resurrections.

Joh_3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Now the above is straight from Christ’s own mouth. Don’t you think he should know if anyone has ascended unto Heaven other than himself? Why should He lie about it? This includes all those in the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man, all those “souls under the alter” in Revelation, the Thief on the Cross, Moses and Abraham, Elijah and anyone else.


EPHESIANS 5:13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for
whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says: "Awake, you who sleep,
arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light." (NKJV)

Christ awakens those who sleep, who are dead.


I CORINTHIANS 15:20 But now Christ is risen [egegertai] from the dead, and has
become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came
death, by man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign till He has put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. (NKJV)

Plainly says the dead are asleep and that Christ will bring them forth from their graves in the resurrections.

I CORINTHIANS 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a
mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed — 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory." (NKJV)

I THESSALONIANS 4:13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about
those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. (NASU)

I THESSALONIANS 4:15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words. (NIV)

Paul is very clear here. Those who have fallen asleep and are in their graves will come forth in the resurrection at Christ’s coming. They will rise. From where will they rise? From their graves. Not from Heaven or from Hell.


2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

In the above scripture, Paul tells us when the saved will gather together with the Christ. It is at His return and not at anytime before.

Mar_13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

The above is plainly referring to the end times and to the return of Christ.



EZEKIEL 37:1 The hand of the LORD came upon me, and He led me out in the spirit of the LORD and set me in the center of the plain, which was now filled with bones. 2 He made me walk among them in every direction so that I saw how many they were on the surface of the plain. How dry they were! 3 He asked me: Son of man, can these bones come to life? "Lord GOD," I answered, "you alone know that." 4 Then He said o me: Prophesy over these bones, and say to them: Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD! 5 Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: See! I will bring spirit into you, that you may come to life. 6 I will put sinews upon you, make flesh grow over you, cover you with skin, and put spirit in you so that you may come to life and know that I am the LORD. 7 I prophesied as I had been told, and even as I was prophesying I heard a noise; it was a rattling as the bones came together, bone joining bone. 8 I saw the sinews and the flesh come upon them, and the skin cover them, but there was no spirit in them. 9 Then He said to me: Prophesy to the spirit, prophesy, son of man, and say to the spirit: Thus says the Lord GOD: From the four winds come, O spirit, and breathe into these slain that they may come to life. 10 I prophesied as He told me, and the spirit came into them; they came alive and stood upright, a vast army. 11 Then He said to me: Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They have been saying, "Our bones are dried up, our hope is lost, and we are cut off." 12 Therefore, prophesy and say to them: Thus says the Lord GOD: O my people, I will open your graves and have you rise from them, and bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and have you rise from them, O my people! 14 I will put my Spirit in you that you may live, and I will settle you upon your land; thus you shall know that I am the LORD. I have promised, and I will do it, says the LORD. (NAB)

Above is speaking of the resurrection of Israel.

Following is the scripture that causes the most misunderstanding and is probably the most misquoted scripture in our Bibles:

II CORINTHIANS 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be
unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the
Spirit as a guarantee. 6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at
home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by
sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body
and to be present with the Lord. 9 Therefore we make it our aim, whether present or absent, to be well pleasing to Him. (NKJV)

If we simply go back to Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, we find that "our earthly house" (v. 1), our physical body, will be "swallowed up by life" (v. 4) at the resurrection (I Cor. 15:50-54). This is the context in which Paul writes here. When Paul says that "while we are at home in the (physical) body we are absent from the Lord," he is simply saying that we can't be with the Lord until we receive our immortal bodies at the resurrection (I Cor. 15:50).

When understood correctly, Paul here confirms that it's only at the resurrection that the saints will be alive with Yeshua. When Paul speaks of being "absent from the body to be present with the Lord," he is speaking of the resurrection of the dead, when his mortal body will be replaced by the "building from God" (v. 1).

I have posted more than enough simple scripture here that any reasonable and honest person should be able to reasonably determine that the dead are indeed dead and in their graves and that there is absolutely no one presently being tortured in a fiery place called Hell nor has anyone ascended unto Heaven other than the Christ. This will I pray, stave off those who preach an apostate doctrine to the contrary and make an open assault upon the name and character of our God and Christ. Please refrain from posting any other scriptures whereby you request I explain them to you since I submit if you are unwilling to accept all these scriptures I have posted, then there is simply nothing that you will accept and anything further would be in vain just as all these will have been in vain.
 
Upvote 0