Hell is not what you think.

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

visionary said:
If you have no part in it, you have nothing to fear from it. It is a final cleansing process that needs to be done and when it is finished, sin will never rear its ugly head in the mind, heart, or have any remnants in the eternal life with God.

I am not fearful for me my friend. I am homesick as it is to be with my Lord and have no doubt where I will go. I am however disturbed at some of the responses here. There is a difference.

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Who are? Scriptures please.

oh boy. What is up with this site. ‍♂️

pinacled · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Who are? Scriptures please.

The Spirit of prophecy is boundless

Presbyterian Continuist · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Who are? Scriptures please.

So you don't believe that there is anything beyond physical death? There is a Scripture that says that those in Christ will be resurrected to be in the presence of the Lord for ever, and those outside of the Christ will be resurrected to perdition. If you Google the quote, you should find the Scripture reference and see whether it agrees with my paraphrase.

Tone · Feb 14, 2020

Oscarr said:
So you don't believe that there is anything beyond physical death? There is a Scripture that says that those in Christ will be resurrected to be in the presence of the Lord for ever, and those outside of the Christ will be resurrected to perdition. If you Google the quote, you should find the Scripture reference and see whether it agrees with my paraphrase.

Where in Scripture does it say "we are eternal beings"?

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Where in Scripture does it say "we are eternal beings"?

1. In their original state, Adam and Eve were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). God is eternal; consequently, they must have been created eternal. Now, I must be careful to state it was a different kind of eternal than God. God has always existed, and always will. Humanity has existed only for a little while on this earth. Humanity has a starting point, but will continue on forever.

2. Adam and Eve (and their offspring – the human race) were originally made to last forever. However, death entered into the picture caused by their disobedience. Death was a good thing in this respect: otherwise the human race would have remained in a permanent state of evil. With death being introduced, that assumes they were originally made to last forever.

3. So, now we have to examine what death is. It is not cessation of existence. It means separation of our soul and spirit from our physical body. The body decays in the grave, but it will be resurrected someday yet in the future (John 5:28, 29). At physical death, the souls of saved people travel immediately to heaven to be with Christ (2 Corinthians 5:8), where they await resurrection day. The souls of the unsaved are placed into Hades to await their resurrection (Luke 16:22-31).

4. You can see from this, that we still exist, but in a different form and place. But, we need to ask about the eternal state in heaven and hell – after our resurrection. What happens then? Well, Jesus said, “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Matthew 25:46). Consequently, people will exist forever.

5. Another note is our resurrected, glorified body. Christ’s resurrection resulted in an eternal, glorified body for Him of which ours will be patterned after (Philippians 3:21). If Christ last forever, then so shall we.

6. Finally, Paul tells us that at our resurrection, “this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality” (I Corinthians 15:53), and that death itself will be abolished. He is talking about our resurrected body.

Tone · Feb 14, 2020

Emmsmom81 said:
However, death entered into the picture

This is why I asked "Who are?", because some are not eternal beings.

Emmsmom81 said:
the righteous into eternal life

Correct, the righteous are eternal beings.

Emmsmom81 said:
Paul tells us that at our resurrection, “this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality” (I Corinthians 15:53), and that death itself will be abolished. He is talking about our resurrected body.

Yes, we will put off the temporal, upon resurrecting or "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye"...

1 Corinthians 15:
"51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
This is why I asked "Who are?", because some are not eternal beings.

Correct, the righteous are eternal beings.

Yes, we will put off the temporal, upon resurrecting or "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye"...

1 Corinthians 15:
"51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed."

We don’t become eternal upon justification. We are all created for eternal existence but then some are justified and will spend that time in the presence of the Lord.

Tone · Feb 14, 2020

Emmsmom81 said:
We are all created for eternal existence

So are we all created for eternal life?

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Do we just omit the fact that Jesus called it ETERNAL punishment??? You cannot just omit what you don’t like. All of God‘s attributes are eternal and that means His wrath is as well. We were created to eternally give Him glory but for those that reject, there is Hell. Rejecting the purpose to which you were created does not change what he created you to be which is eternally existent. This is what the Bible meant in part by created in their image.

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
So are we all created for eternal life?

I said existence.

Tone · Feb 14, 2020

Emmsmom81 said:
Jesus called it ETERNAL punishment

Verse please.

Tone · Feb 14, 2020

Emmsmom81 said:
I said existence.

So, existing is not living?

HARK! · Feb 14, 2020

The Biblical truth about Hell:

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
So, existing is not living?

No.

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Verse please.

Matt. 25:46

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

Tone said:
Verse please.

Also Matt 18:18 I recall. Lots of verses. But you miss the entire picture if you verse pick.

pinacled · Feb 14, 2020

Emmsmom81 said:
We don’t become eternal upon justification. We are all created for eternal existence but then some are justified and will spend that time in the presence of the Lord.

Wrong.
Dust is not eternal

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

pinacled said:
Wrong.
Dust is not eternal

Your Spirit will get a body back. That is why there is a resurrection unto eternal life for some but others for the endurance of hell.

Emmsmom81 · Feb 14, 2020

pinacled said:
Wrong.
Dust is not eternal

Ecclesiastes 12:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

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