• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Hell and God(consistent or inconsistent)debate

Status
Not open for further replies.

CreedIsChrist

Well-Known Member
Jul 25, 2008
3,303
193
✟4,612.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Constitution
I don't think the word "love" means what you think it means.


Its good to express your feelings Nathan, we all have our little opinions....


Anyway...



Now, has anyone listened to the whole debate yet? What are your thoughts? I'm about halfway through
 
Upvote 0

TheBear

NON-WOKED
Jan 2, 2002
20,653
1,813
✟312,491.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Its good to express your feelings Nathan, we all have our little opinions....


Anyway...



Now, has anyone listened to the whole debate yet? What are your thoughts? I'm about halfway through

I'm not going to sit through all that, especially when we got a willing volunteer - you. :p When you're through, just post the major arguments here. :thumbsup:
 
Upvote 0

HighwayMan

Well-Known Member
Aug 7, 2007
2,831
257
✟17,627.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Private
A very good debate about the theology of Hell and whether it is/is not compatible with the Love of God. Its kinda a long one, 75 minutes.

William Craig vs. Ray Bradley

http://www.bringyou.to/CraigBradleyHellDebate.mp3

Stopped after the first 2 minutes.

"Let me explain to you why hell and an all-loving God are not inconsistent. Detractors of hell make these points: Blablabla. But the word "bla" does not mean "bla", it actually means "bla". Therefore, hell is true."
 
Upvote 0

CreedIsChrist

Well-Known Member
Jul 25, 2008
3,303
193
✟4,612.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Constitution
Stopped after the first 2 minutes.

"Let me explain to you why hell and an all-loving God are not inconsistent. Detractors of hell make these points: Blablabla. But the word "bla" does not mean "bla", it actually means "bla". Therefore, hell is true."


its not good to be intellectually dishonest. If this is how non-Christians study Christianity then I can see why it is such with them

The debate has 2 people, one a proponent of hell and the other a universalist... It isn't a one lecture stint where it just tries to justify hell.
 
Upvote 0

b&wpac4

Trying to stay away
Sep 21, 2008
7,690
478
✟40,295.00
Faith
Judaism
Marital Status
Engaged
its not good to be intellectually dishonest. If this is how non-Christians study Christianity then I can see why it is such with them

The debate has 2 people, one a proponent of hell and the other a universalist... It isn't a one lecture stint where it just tries to justify hell.

Love to argue it with you, CIC, but I'd break several site rules and, as we were told earlier, this isn't general apologetics so this debate doesn't really belong here.

Not that I think either of us would be swayed by the other. You seem pretty strong in your beliefs, as I am pretty strong in mine. :D
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.