Hebrews 10:26

Bluelion · Mar 30, 2014

hhodgson said:
Grace to you Bluelion... If I can help...

What you could do is to ask God to... "FORGIVE THEM" for they not know what they do" as Jesus did on the cross. (Luke 23:34)

Ok... now that your done... Let's learn about entering into God's REST.

Sounds like you have prayed, prayed, and prayed and DONE all YOU can do on your own. It's NOW time for you to Enter Into His Rest. (IMO), All of the "pray, prayer, and praying" is not necessary...

Please hear me out. For years... most churches have taught that we are to "grab the horns of the alter" and to keep on praying until you FEEL that release. (More on this later)

Back to entering His REST...

Heb 4:9-11
There remaineth therefore a REST to the people of God. For he that is entered into His REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His. Let us labour therefore to enter into that REST, (BELIEVE), lest any man fall after the same example of "unbelief."

John 6:28-29 We find Jesus being asked the same question by the multitude who had been awed by His miracles..."What shall we do, that we may WORK the works of God?" Notice how Jesus answered them: "This is the work (Labour) of God, that you BELIEVE in Him whom He sent."

This is how to enter His REST... BELIEVE, and IF you give it to God... He will give you His REST.

Matthew 11:28-30 "Come to me all who are weary and carrying heavy burdens And I will give you REST."

I Pet 5:7 "Casting all your CARE UPON HIM; for he careth for you."

NOW... start RESTING.

When we BELIEVE that God is doing all these things for us, and so much more, THEN... we can stop "doing" things in our own strength, and you can live with ongoing peace, knowing He will freely give you all things. This is where it's not necessary to "pray, prayer, and praying." Yes... PRAYER is first and foremost. But we must enter in to BELIEVE what were praying for. (Not to say you are not... but at times... we may all do)

Perhaps this will help... I PRAYED... I BELIEVE I RECEIVE... I TRUST... I ENTER HIS REST... God ANSWERS... I REJOICE (NOW... Let HIM complete the WORK... (Regardless of what you SEE in your families situation... BELIEVE!)

We are to labor every day to enter His rest. His REST is to BELIEVE that the work is already done because it is a FINISHED WORK," and NOW... we trust in Gods undeserved favor toward us (Grace).

Sometimes... we can find it hard to REST because our human nature is inclined towards worry and restlessness... and we can find ourselves into disbelief and not entering into His REST.

We do this same RESTING in God's FINISHED WORK (The redemptive BLOOD of Christ) for any need, or situation that comes up whether it's for healing, prosperity, or ANY of the promises of God. So, Let's abide in His REST...

Father... I cast this CARE of my family upon you for you care for me. I have done all I can do. I have spoken your Word and I refuse to worry, with doubt and unbelief. I believe, I receive, when I prayed... Right NOW... I trust you and "enter" into your REST. Thank you for renewing my mind with your Word. It is finished...

I hope this can be helpful to someone...

Just a little add on note... Most of the time broken relationships are the fault of ALL people involved and I believe you are aware of that...

Your are blessed...

I have prayed for her and God has blessed her and I have step in and helped her many many times. Truth is you can have a relationship when only one person is trying. The abuse is nothing new been going sense I was a kid. I prefer not to go into it. I don't need to speak bad of her I don't feel that would be honoring her or God. So I have been trying the best I can to leave out as much details as possible.

What you said about it takes two for a relationship to fail, would that be true with a woman who is beaten by her boy friend or husband. Did she do some thing to deserve the abuse? What you said is a good saying of men, but is not always truth and it only works with normal relationships.

But thank you for your words. Taking rest in God is important.

Truthfrees · Mar 30, 2014

Bluelion said:
Thank you, I see your point. Its hard because i love them, but I am tried of the abuse and my New family does not deserve to see the affect they have on me. I feel it is the right choice to walk away, and I feel God is with me and not hold it against me. Feels good thanks

I changed the last line of my previous post to:

This means you might leave people for the sake of the kingdom of GOD.

May the kingdom of GOD flood richly into your life and your new family's life.

May the Lord give you wisdom and peace as you consult HIM on everything you do.

Truthfrees · Mar 30, 2014

ABlessedMan said:
This is why Christians discuss such things. What is "absolutely sure?" I believe OSAS. I believe I put forth valid arguments for its teaching in scripture. Others put forth complete arguments to the contrary from scripture. My position is that both cannot be true and I feel that I have answered how the contrarians' points are dealt with in my interpretations, but that the contrarians cannot adequately include the points that I've brought up. But that is a belief, a choice. It is not a proof. This all goes back to a more basic discussion of what is essential belief and what is non-essential.

Which is why we all talk. Bring forth the argument.

But your question is leading. That is: people get divorced, therefore we are able to divorce.

I disagree.
Matthew 5:31-32 (NET)
31 "It was said, ' Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document .' 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
These people got a divorce. God did not recognize man's putting asunder the union. When they remarried, in God's eyes, they committed adultery. What is important to the question of divorce focusing on CAN you and SHOULD you?

Ultimately scripture is consistent with itself. If we see inconsistencies, then our interpretation is wrong... not that scripture is disjoint.

I'll get back to you on this.

My reply is taking longer than I thought.

I saved it in drafts to work on it more later.

I'm starting over with a different interpretation of scripture since "I Believe in Visions".

It may take me a while to present something solid.

I have to study through all the "REJECT the Lord" scriptures again.

Bluelion · Mar 30, 2014

Truthfrees said:
I changed the last line of my previous post to:

This means you might leave people for the sake of the kingdom of GOD.

May the kingdom of GOD flood richly into your life and your new family's life.

May the Lord give you wisdom and peace as you consult HIM on everything you do.

thank you and with you and your family.

now faith · Mar 30, 2014

ABlessedMan said:
This is why Christians discuss such things. What is "absolutely sure?" I believe OSAS. I believe I put forth valid arguments for its teaching in scripture. Others put forth complete arguments to the contrary from scripture. My position is that both cannot be true and I feel that I have answered how the contrarians' points are dealt with in my interpretations, but that the contrarians cannot adequately include the points that I've brought up. But that is a belief, a choice. It is not a proof. This all goes back to a more basic discussion of what is essential belief and what is non-essential.

Which is why we all talk. Bring forth the argument.

But your question is leading. That is: people get divorced, therefore we are able to divorce.

I disagree.

Matthew 5:31-32 (NET)
31 "It was said, ' Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document .' 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

These people got a divorce. God did not recognize man's putting asunder the union. When they remarried, in God's eyes, they committed adultery. What is important to the question of divorce focusing on CAN you and SHOULD you?

Ultimately scripture is consistent with itself. If we see inconsistencies, then our interpretation is wrong... not that scripture is disjoint.

Two issues here,this statement was proprietary to the law of Moses for the Jews prior to Christ
Redemption on the Cross.

The last statement Christ states what God has joined together let no man put asunder.

Did God join you with the unGody spouse you married out of flesh?

Answer yes and God is promoting evil
Answer no and you realize the importance of marrying a Christian
God has called us to peace.

now faith · Mar 30, 2014

There are other unwritten circumstances in the New Testament example:

Can anyone find specific verse that forbids multiple wife's or concubine?

The Old Testament clearly was not condemning them.

So was this idealism added in the Vulgate or a decree of Constantine?
Is it a sin ?
Or a puritan ideal passed down by a Roman decree to bring a morally correct doctrine in the eyes of the papacy.

I am not promoting multiple wife's ,only posing a question off topic no less.

now faith · Mar 30, 2014

DMW said:
I visit other forums too, and I appreciate that we have differences of opinion. We are all God's children as you said, and we all have much to learn. But it was a hard fought battle to get our own forum, and our desire for having one was because so many people were persecuting us for our beliefs. It's true that Word of Faith, not being a denomination with a central authority, has no official statement of doctrine (the one in this forum was put together by forum members). Nevertheless, my problem with this thread and others like it is that it is promoting something that is very definitely taught against in virtually every Word of Faith pulpit.
Ironically, my own pastor spoke on this subject just this morning, referring to "once save always saved" as an unbiblical fantasy. This, from one of the oldest, and largest Word of Faith churches in America.

I do not like the bashing as well,but blue lion is attempting to explore theology and I do not
Consider him debating us.
It's a thin rope to walk on between those trying to degrade our forum,and someone hungry
To learn.
I have not read anything flaming from Blue in our forum,and when you consider our history
In W.O.F many came from other denominations.
Dad Hagin and EW Kenyon were at one time Baptist.
In my opinion we are Ecumenical and a movement not a denomination.

But we are also targets for legalism and yoked by mistake to questionable people.

OldDogDiver · Mar 31, 2014

DMW said:
If it's not possible to ever turn away from the Lord, why so many warnings against doing so? To say a person must not have ever been saved in the first place is just ridiculous and the only way to keep your reformed theology intact.

The warnings are so very clear.

OldDogDiver · Mar 31, 2014

DMW said:
"You can't disconnect yourself."

This is error. It's poison, and it's not taught by any prominent Word of Faith teachers.
You surely can disconnect yourself and hundreds of scriptural warnings against such a things ought to be adequate for us to dispel with such a notion. This is a doctrine of devils.

Yes. It is from the enemy to lead people into a false sense of security.

ABlessedAnomaly · Mar 31, 2014

now faith said:
Two issues here,this statement was proprietary to the law of Moses for the Jews prior to Christ Redemption on the Cross.

God doesn't change. His principles are eternal. Even Jesus said that it was forgiven them because of the hardness of their hearts. In other words, they didn't know. But it was still sin and they would have to pay the penalty for the sin except that Christ die on the cross for sin.

Bottom line is that divorce is sin.

Redeeming line is that Jesus died for all sin when you repent and accept Him as Lord and Savior. Many get divorced prior to conversion and prior to finding out that scripture speaks so strongly about this. Some get divorced after knowing this truth, God forbid. To a born again believer, none is salvific; all sin has penalty in all men, saved or not.

You don't go to hell because you sin (or we are all toast); you go to hell if you have not accepted the free gift Jesus provided on the cross.

now faith said:
The last statement Christ states what God has joined together let no man put asunder.

Did God join you with the unGody spouse you married out of flesh?

I'm not sure your point. God sees all eternity. But even scripture speaks to the unequally yoked who are already married. (1 Peter 3:1)

now faith said:
Answer yes and God is promoting evil
Answer no and you realize the importance of marrying a Christian
God has called us to peace.

Awesome advise prior to marriage. Doesn't fit if one is already married -- such as two unbelievers who marry and one later gets saved.

The marriage is still holy (even between two unbelievers). God is the one who has joined two together. There is a change in our person when we are married. Some ignore it even still and chase their carnal desires.

ABlessedAnomaly · Mar 31, 2014

DMW said:
I visit other forums too, and I appreciate that we have differences of opinion. We are all God's children as you said, and we all have much to learn. But it was a hard fought battle to get our own forum, and our desire for having one was because so many people were persecuting us for our beliefs. It's true that Word of Faith, not being a denomination with a central authority, has no official statement of doctrine (the one in this forum was put together by forum members). Nevertheless, my problem with this thread and others like it is that it is promoting something that is very definitely taught against in virtually every Word of Faith pulpit.
Ironically, my own pastor spoke on this subject just this morning, referring to "once save always saved" as an unbiblical fantasy. This, from one of the oldest, and largest Word of Faith churches in America.

Hi DMW. God bless!

I left a Word/Faith church about two years ago that was under the Copeland mentorship. I don't know if Cope has addressed this subject directly, but the church I was a part of very definitely taught OSAS. I can't recall if they ever directly answered whether a person could "walk away" from salvation.

Word/Faith is a movement and not a denomination. It does not have a corporate head that is defining what the statement of faith should be, or what the denominational beliefs should be.

You may have experience with one or more Word/Faith ministries that do not teach OSAS, but there are many out there that do. Take Andrew Womack for instance. He teaches OSAS but believes that one can give up their salvation.

As in any "denomination" there are the essentials (firstly, what defines a Christian and secondly what defines that group) and there are the debatable features, items that not all members will see eye to eye about. We debate the debatable and we should agree to the essentials.

Jesus is God: essential.
OSAS: debatable.

And within a movement that has not corporate structure, there is much more debatable than not. Hold fast to what you know and can show in scripture -- at least until someone proves to you another view.

now faith · Apr 1, 2014

ABlessedMan said:
God doesn't change. His principles are eternal. Even Jesus said that it was forgiven them because of the hardness of their hearts. In other words, they didn't know. But it was still sin and they would have to pay the penalty for the sin except that Christ die on the cross for sin.

Bottom line is that divorce is sin.

Redeeming line is that Jesus died for all sin when you repent and accept Him as Lord and Savior. Many get divorced prior to conversion and prior to finding out that scripture speaks so strongly about this. Some get divorced after knowing this truth, God forbid. To a born again believer, none is salvific; all sin has penalty in all men, saved or not.

You don't go to hell because you sin (or we are all toast); you go to hell if you have not accepted the free gift Jesus provided on the cross.

I'm not sure your point. God sees all eternity. But even scripture speaks to the unequally yoked who are already married. (1 Peter 3:1)

Awesome advise prior to marriage. Doesn't fit if one is already married -- such as two unbelievers who marry and one later gets saved.

The marriage is still holy (even between two unbelievers). God is the one who has joined two together. There is a change in our person when we are married. Some ignore it even still and chase their carnal desires.

Paul makes it clear,if we are yoked to a unbeliever and they depart,let them we are under no
Burden of sin.
I must disagree divorce is sin.
It depends on the circumstances,adultery or trying to murder husband you know small issues.

now faith · Apr 1, 2014

Bob I can not see the reason the a hardened heart is sin.

Moses granted a writ of divorce due to the hardness of their hearts,this was not a violation of the law
Of Moses.

Quote Bob :God doesn't change. His principles are eternal. Even Jesus said that it was forgiven them because of the hardness of their hearts. In other words, they didn't know. But it was still sin and they would have to pay the penalty for the sin except that Christ die on the cross for sin.

Mark 10:5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

Not to be rude but it says nothing about forgiveness of sin.

We no longer are under the law,which was written to and for the Jewish people.

By grace the Gentiles received salvation,along with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

They were set free in the absence of the law,

hhodgson · Apr 1, 2014

now faith said:
Bob I can not see the reason that a hardened heart is sin.

Hi now faith...

I hope I can use your quote here for teaching purposes. I am "always" the first in line and subject to learn...

Can hardening of the heart be SIN..? Although... It may not necessarily always be SIN that can cause hardening of the heart. Or can it..? Many things can cause heart hardening. It's how we focus on spiritual matters. The dictionary defines hardened as...

cold...
insensitive...
unfeeling...
unyielding...

If we're honest with ourselves, we'll have to agree that there are certain areas of our lives where WE can have a hard heart toward God. A hardened heart can dull a persons ability to perceive and understand spiritual matters. Jesus spoke to His disciples about the characteristics of a hard heart:

Mark 6:52
"For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened"

Mark 8:17-18
"And when Jesus knew it, (hardened hearts), He said unto them, Why do you reason, because you have no bread? You do not perceive, neither understand? Have your heart hardened? Having eyes but, see not? Having ears but, hear not? Do you not remember?"

Could these things be considered SINS that Jesus listed..?
(1) unable to perceive
(2) unable to understand
(3) unable to see
(4) unable to hear
(5) unable to remember.

In these verses in His Word... Jesus gave us symptoms that are descriptive of a hardened heart on spiritual matters and that we can be "spiritual blind" and deaf on our focusing of these things... These are all speaking of inabilities in the spiritual realm and their hardened hearts kept them from perceiving spiritual truths. They were being dominated by natural thinking than by supernatural thinking.

Were they operating in the flesh..? Is that a sin..? Shouldn't they have KNOWN better when they SEEN these miracles..? Was there doubt and unbelief present..?

James 4:17
"Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin."

Romans 14:23
"for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

Just a question... could these scriptures "by not understanding" them lead to a hardened heart and be considered SIN..?

AND if WE have hardened our hearts in some area, we need to repent (change our thinking). By these definitions listed (above)... We ALL sin through the weakness of our flesh, but... NO sin can penetrate our Spirit... and our Spirit cannot sin... All Christians need to understand this truth... At least... this is how I see it...

1 John 3:9
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

Aren't you glad that even though we do still sin... God forbid..! We need to stop!

However, through the Finished work of Christ... Sin is no longer an issue with God... And, to the unsaved... The only sin that matters to them is unbelief in Him. We, (Christians) are redeemed! No need to ask for forgiveness anymore. No need to confess our sins anymore. We need only to confess Him. However... this does not "exclude" repentance. I repent and change my mind, and my thinking often. That's true repentance. We at WoF get accused of being beyond repentance. Not so... We live a LIFE of repentance.

Uh-oh... Better half just came home... MY bloviating is done... (for now)

Hmm... Anymore coffee... Another cup please..!

ABlessedAnomaly · Apr 1, 2014

now faith said:
Bob I can not see the reason the a hardened heart is sin.

Moses granted a writ of divorce due to the hardness of their hearts,this was not a violation of the law
Of Moses.

Quote Bob :God doesn't change. His principles are eternal. Even Jesus said that it was forgiven them because of the hardness of their hearts. In other words, they didn't know. But it was still sin and they would have to pay the penalty for the sin except that Christ die on the cross for sin.

Mark 10:5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

Not to be rude but it says nothing about forgiveness of sin.

We no longer are under the law,which was written to and for the Jewish people.

By grace the Gentiles received salvation,along with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

They were set free in the absence of the law,

Mark 10:11-12 (NET)
11 So he told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

James 1:17 (NET)
All generous giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or the slightest hint of change.

God does not change.

What is a sin today, always was. And vice versa. He does show Mercy and Grace.

Further, there is forgiveness in Christ.

ABlessedAnomaly · Apr 1, 2014

now faith said:
Paul makes it clear,if we are yoked to a unbeliever and they depart,let them we are under no
Burden of sin.
I must disagree divorce is sin.
It depends on the circumstances,adultery or trying to murder husband you know small issues.

I stand corrected. You are right that there are circumstances where it is not your sin. In general, though....

now faith · Apr 2, 2014

ABlessedMan said:
I stand corrected. You are right that there are circumstances where it is not your sin. In general, though....

Good solid teaching on the heart and other subject matter bro.
I have known couples who never known any one but each other.

They act like kids after 30 yrs.Even still have date nights.
What a blessing to have such a bond,opinion only God has joined them together.

It's unfortunate at times some Christians walk out of God's will,and make bad decisions.
Yet God brings good from even bad things,Good Children,a cry out of need of restoration from the believer.

You can be deceived,that Christian lady who will not go to Church or even able to pray over a meal.
Lie cheat steal,allow 12 year olds to watch all manner of r rated evil movies.

Her fruit is a cancer.
But some believe you should stay married her after all right.

Pray ,pray and pray some more ,God will make the wrong right,either by restoration or divorce.

People who are so against divorce,should try to live with Jezebell for a few years then
Come back a let us know how wrong divorce is

Good to hear from you my friend,FORGIVE my experience in such things.

now faith · Apr 2, 2014

ABlessedMan said:
Mark 10:11-12 (NET)
11 So he told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

James 1:17 (NET)
All generous giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or the slightest hint of change.

God does not change.

What is a sin today, always was. And vice versa. He does show Mercy and Grace.

Further, there is forgiveness in Christ.

On the pre cross precept on divorce being proprietary to the law of Moses.

I learned this ideal from a joint sermon between Kenneth Copeland and Bill Winston
They were both in the pulpit teaming up.

I haven't gone deep into study about it,but found it interesting.

now faith · Apr 2, 2014

hhodgson said:
Hi now faith...

I hope I can use your quote here for teaching purposes. I am "always" the first in line and subject to learn...

Can hardening of the heart be SIN..? Although... It may not necessarily always be SIN that can cause hardening of the heart. Or can it..? Many things can cause heart hardening. It's how we focus on spiritual matters. The dictionary defines hardened as...

cold...
insensitive...
unfeeling...
unyielding...

If we're honest with ourselves, we'll have to agree that there are certain areas of our lives where WE can have a hard heart toward God. A hardened heart can dull a persons ability to perceive and understand spiritual matters. Jesus spoke to His disciples about the characteristics of a hard heart:

Mark 6:52
"For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened"

Mark 8:17-18
"And when Jesus knew it, (hardened hearts), He said unto them, Why do you reason, because you have no bread? You do not perceive, neither understand? Have your heart hardened? Having eyes but, see not? Having ears but, hear not? Do you not remember?"

Could these things be considered SINS that Jesus listed..?
(1) unable to perceive
(2) unable to understand
(3) unable to see
(4) unable to hear
(5) unable to remember.

In these verses in His Word... Jesus gave us symptoms that are descriptive of a hardened heart on spiritual matters and that we can be "spiritual blind" and deaf on our focusing of these things... These are all speaking of inabilities in the spiritual realm and their hardened hearts kept them from perceiving spiritual truths. They were being dominated by natural thinking than by supernatural thinking.

Were they operating in the flesh..? Is that a sin..? Shouldn't they have KNOWN better when they SEEN these miracles..? Was there doubt and unbelief present..?

James 4:17
"Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin."

Romans 14:23
"for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

Just a question... could these scriptures "by not understanding" them lead to a hardened heart and be considered SIN..?

AND if WE have hardened our hearts in some area, we need to repent (change our thinking). By these definitions listed (above)... We ALL sin through the weakness of our flesh, but... NO sin can penetrate our Spirit... and our Spirit cannot sin... All Christians need to understand this truth... At least... this is how I see it...

1 John 3:9
"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

Aren't you glad that even though we do still sin... God forbid..! We need to stop!

However, through the Finished work of Christ... Sin is no longer an issue with God... And, to the unsaved... The only sin that matters to them is unbelief in Him. We, (Christians) are redeemed! No need to ask for forgiveness anymore. No need to confess our sins anymore. We need only to confess Him. However... this does not "exclude" repentance. I repent and change my mind, and my thinking often. That's true repentance. We at WoF get accused of being beyond repentance. Not so... We live a LIFE of repentance.

Uh-oh... Better half just came home... MY bloviating is done... (for now)

Hmm... Anymore coffee... Another cup please..!

I gave Bob the kudos for your post,great job on looking at the subject without
Being biased.

Thanks Harry

ABlessedAnomaly · Apr 2, 2014

now faith said:
Pray ,pray and pray some more ,God will make the wrong right,either by restoration or divorce.

I'll state my acquiescence again: there are times it is not your sin. That is when someone divorces you or commits adultery against your marriage. God will never make a wrong right by requiring/suggesting divorce.

now faith said:
People who are so against divorce,should try to live with Jezebell for a few years then
Come back a let us know how wrong divorce is

I'd rather not. I don't sympathize or empathize your position given this is what you went through. I can't imagine it at all.

now faith said:
Good to hear from you my friend,FORGIVE my experience in such things.

You are my brother in Christ, so if I have anything to forgive you for then you have it. As a child of God you are already forgiven. I hold nothing against anyone who has gone through divorce if they have repented in Christ and stand forgiven by God. Who would I be to hold fault?

This does not, though, dismiss scripture's stance on the subject. So for any who contemplate it for themselves: if your spouse has committed adultery or if they divorce you then the sin is not on you. If they are unsaved then scripture is clear:

1 Corinthians 7:10-16 (NET)
10 To the married I give this command - not I, but the Lord - a wife should not divorce a husband 11 (but if she does, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband), and a husband should not divorce his wife. 12 To the rest I say - I, not the Lord - if a brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is happy to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is happy to live with her, she should not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified because of the wife, and the unbelieving wife because of her husband. Otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever wants a divorce, let it take place. In these circumstances the brother or sister is not bound. God has called you in peace. 16 For how do you know, wife, whether you will bring your husband to salvation? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will bring your wife to salvation?

1 Corinthians 7:27-28 (NET)27 The one bound to a wife should not seek divorce. The one released from a wife should not seek marriage. 28 But if you marry, you have not sinned. And if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face difficult circumstances, and I am trying to spare you such problems.

And, of course, Matthew 19 where Moses' allowance is spoken of.

So there are conditions that are not sin. In conditions that were there is forgiveness in repentance through Christ. And from this day forward you and all readers of these words have no excuse to follow the Word on this subject.

I love you, man. I won't bend or compromise God's Word at all. If you've been through this and have repented then God forgives and forgets. Christ's healing is complete.

Hebrews 10:26

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