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Hebrews 1:1-4 and the Trinity

Slaol121

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I was reading my bible the other day and came across this verse in Hebrews:

"Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. 3He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains* all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."
Hebrews 1:1-4 (NRSV)

In light of the doctrine of the Trinity, how does one explain the fact that God "appointed" the Son & "created the worlds" through Him? Also, how can the Son "inherit" the name of God, since He is already 100% God?
 

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I read from the King James. Hebrews 1:2;"Hath in these last days spoken unto us by ( his Son), whom he hath appointed heir of all things,( by whom) also he made the worlds;"

The Son is the Word of God. Gods Word was made flesh in Jesus Christ.

By the Son, or (Word of God) all things were created. God spoke it, and it was done.

In the end, it will be Gods Word that shall rule in the worlds, (or be heir) of all things.

In Hebrews 1:4;"Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellant name than they."

If you will notice by inheritance( the Son) has obtained a more excellant name over the angels. It does not say he inherited the name of God.

Keep in mind, the Word came out from God, just like a son is born of his father.
 
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I was reading my bible the other day and came across this verse in Hebrews:

"Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. 3He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains* all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."
Hebrews 1:1-4 (NRSV)

In light of the doctrine of the Trinity, how does one explain the fact that God "appointed" the Son & "created the worlds" through Him? Also, how can the Son "inherit" the name of God, since He is already 100% God?

First, we can not see God.
But we will see God.
Both have to be truth.

So, what we will see is the God, but is not the God. (we can not say Lord Jesus "represents" God, but He is the one we will see)

That is how. (I did not answer the question, but see the question from another angle). It can be understood, but can not be explained.:doh:
 
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I was reading my bible the other day and came across this verse in Hebrews:

"Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. 3He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains* all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."
Hebrews 1:1-4 (NRSV)

In light of the doctrine of the Trinity, how does one explain the fact that God "appointed" the Son & "created the worlds" through Him? Also, how can the Son "inherit" the name of God, since He is already 100% God?

Hi, Slaol. Good question! I mean, since God owns all, how can He inherit anything? Moreover, since God never changes, how can He become anything?

:thumbsup:

I'd explain it this way: The passage is speaking of Christ in two ways--as the Son of Man (a Jewish title for the Messiah), and as the Son of God. For He is 100% human and 100% God at the same time. The words you've displayed in a red font describe the human part of Christ. The words between those in the red font (verse 3a) describe the God part of Christ. So it is Christ the man (not God the Son) who inherits and becomes.

Looks like the apparent logical contradiction is not a real one?

:yum:
 
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I was reading my bible the other day and came across this verse in Hebrews:
"Long ago God spoke to our ancestors in many and various ways by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds. 3He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being, and he sustains* all things by his powerful word. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs."
Hebrews 1:1-4 (NRSV)

In light of the doctrine of the Trinity, how does one explain the fact that God "appointed" the Son & "created the worlds" through Him? Also, how can the Son "inherit" the name of God, since He is already 100% God?

Hebrews 3:2Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)


2Who is faithful to him that made him, as was also Moses in all his house.

The KJV and some of the more popular translations say "appointed" but if you look at a lexicon maybe "made" might be a closer meaning.

Made or Appointed this doesn't seem logical for Jesus, God the Son.

Romans 1:3-4 King James Version (KJV)




3Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

One could understand the reading of these verses to mean Jesus was declared to be the son of God by reason of his resurrection. Seems odd for Jesus who was always the son of God.

I don't have answers. I thought that these passages were similar to the thread questions.

Someone must have the explanation.
 
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John 1:14;"And ( the Word was made flesh), and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

It was supposed that Jesus came through the lineage of David, but Mary concieved by way of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Father, Son and Spirit have relationship to One Another. Father YAH is over all. Son YAHSHUA obeys Father YAH in all things and depends on His Father just as He counted on YAH to raise Him from the dead in promise to the Man Who kept the law which YAHSHUA fully did. It is the Father Who puts all things under the Son and the Son Who as a Man fulfills and accomplishes the will of the Father.

the verses in Hebrews that follow these verses describe the relationship. The Son learned obedience through what He suffered.

5:7 He, in the days of His flesh, having offered up prayers and petitions with strong crying and tears to Him Who was able to save Him from death, and having been heard for His godly fear, 5:8 though He was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which He suffered. 5:9 Having been made perfect, He became to all of those who obey Him the author of eternal salvation, 5:10 named by YAH a High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.
 
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