• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Heb. 1:2

Status
Not open for further replies.

tamedlion

Active Member
Aug 24, 2006
41
7
63
✟22,902.00
Faith
Christian
Ok, I have learned an interesting idea about a few unanswered questions from a biblical perspective. I would like to assert that there is a huge gap between Gen 1:1, and Genesis 1:2.

Searching through through all scripture there are answers which I believe fill in the gap.


Hebrews 1:1,2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets. Hath in these last days spoken unto us
by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;


The reason "worlds" is plural is because there were previous creations on planet earth dating back millions and millions of years which God had to destroy.

Biblically we know that planet earth will be destroyed and a new earth will exist. It is naive to think that the current 6000 year account of existence is the first and only "world" to be destroyed.

In this passage we have the destruction of a prior inhabited earth "world".​

I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void, and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and ail the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the LORD said. The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end (Jeremiah 4:23-27).



 

kenrapoza

I Like Ice Cream
Aug 20, 2006
2,529
134
Massachusetts
✟26,878.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Married
The reason "worlds" is plural is because there were previous creations on planet earth dating back millions and millions of years which God had to destroy.


Biblically we know that planet earth will be destroyed and a new earth will exist. It is naive to think that the current 6000 year account of existence is the first and only "world" to be destroyed.


In this passage we have the destruction of a prior inhabited earth "world".​




In the original Greek, "worlds" is the word Avion which generally refers to "the ages"- essentially an unbroken perpetuity of time. Though it came to be used of what existed in those times. In this case, I don't think this can lead to the conclusion that the author was referring to multiple creations. He is referring to Jesus being the Creator of our universe, the Heavens and the Earth, the Creator of the Ages.
 
Upvote 0

Assyrian

Basically pulling an Obama (Thanks Calminian!)
Mar 31, 2006
14,868
991
Wales
✟42,286.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Hebrews 1:1,2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets. Hath in these last days spoken unto us
by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

The reason "worlds" is plural is because there were previous creations on planet earth dating back millions and millions of years which God had to destroy.

Aiōn, ages, does fit your case better than 'worlds', but it is no slam dunk. Creationists would interpret the time before the flood as a different age too, and of course it fits beautifully into the Day Age interpretation.


It even fit Geological Eons, though that was clearly not the writers intent :p It does show, I think, the writer had some idea o the great antiquity of the earth, and that even with its great age, Christ was still Lord and creator.​

I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void, and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and ail the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the LORD said. The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end (Jeremiah 4:23-27).
A clue to the Jeremiah quote in found in the word 'land' in verse 27. It is the same Hebrew word erets as we find in verse 23 the earth. Jeremiah wasn't telling of a past destruction of the planet, but prophesying the destruction of the land of Judah.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.