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Healing and debate. My testimony

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I have mental illness. When I came here I was full of peace and joy as if I were flying high. But this place slowly eroded that joy. My spirit was quenched in the water of divisions and debate. People need healing and not our debate and divisions. I'm not going to be posting here anymore. It breaks my heart. God bless you folks.

Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.

1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all.

Romans 14:15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.
 
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I have mental illness. When I came here I was full of peace and joy as if I were flying high. But this place slowly eroded that joy. My spirit was quenched in the water of divisions and debate. People need healing and not our debate and divisions. I'm not going to be posting here anymore. It breaks my heart. God bless you folks.

Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.

1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all.

Romans 14:15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.
Hi. I have had similar feelings of feeling this place is full of division and not a healthy environment, and at times I felt like I'm just being sucked into the mud and would have liked to hit the eject button, but God is just showing me how to handle it. I may miss it a time or two, but we continue to learn and grow.

I personally have seen little fruit, just speaking of my view, but I do find some here and there. In fact, I think I've even said in the past that I'm going, but find myself back in. I'll tell you why.

As I said, I'm dealing with a life and death situation for nearly a year now. I had been seeking the Lord on it and although He would give me things here and there on it, these were steps to take, like guiding me step by step and I wasn't happy with that. The matter is such a serious matter and told time is of the essence so i was freaking out. I want to know which way to go because the experts are saying it's all bad, but a decision needs to be made. And some thought their way may be short term bad, but long haul good. And everyone is different so it may not be as bad, or it may be worse. There is no guarantee. And no one agrees with each other; being pulled in different directions.

I won't get too specific because it involves others, but it was a very gloomy picture. For myself I couldn't care less, but this is happening to others too.

So the Lord gave me some insight ...great stuff, but appears this is going to be a walk of faith step by step.

Now here is the thing, during this time I'm getting dreams and visions from Him regarding the body of Christ.

It literally frustrated me because I wanted Him to keep on the issue I'm dealing with, but it wouldn't stop. On and on. I won't share as if the maturity is not there, people will just use these things as weapons to attack each other instead of grieving and allowing the Holy Spirit to intercede and however He may work.

I don't go to a physical church, haven't for years, so figured it may just be with fellowships beyond the four walls that I may also be involved in. Since He kept on there, I took it to mean He wants me to trust my situation in his hands and give attention to something He wants to draw my attention to.

I'm trying to be faithful to Him there, and I literally see what appears to be a miracle taking place on this end.

And, miraculously, when things looked there worse, I had, and still have, the peace that passes all understanding.

I hope to share in near future the biggest thing He taught me through this, how fear robs us of hearing from Him and opens the door to being robbed of things He's given us to guide us.

So I share some of your sentiments. In fact I recently shared with another how I am growing discouraged and don't see fruit, and don't see it as a healthy environment and want to move on because God knows I did not choose this, getting out of my God bubble, but He has now engaged my heart and I do not feel I am at heart released from it yet.

Fruit takes time to grow. It begins as a seed and we share, then let the Lord land that seed where it needs to go. Others He will use to water it, but He does the work and makes it grow.

I personally do not see this place as a healthy environment for those that have mental issues, but each as the Lord leads. You can always avoid the areas that contribute to you feeling sick, or you can check out and return when you feel healthier. I thought you had some great things to share. My only real issue was that you appeared to look to blame others and although GOD DOES NOT IGNORE CONTRIBUTORS AND THAT IS FOUND IN SCRIPTURES, HE DOES EXPECT US TO HEAR FROM HIM FOREMOST FOR OUR WELLBEING.

Sorry for the caps. I'm not yelling. I just want to emphasize that point.

You follow what you feel the LORD has laid on your heart. I like to say if we are unsure of his voice, it will become more apparent with time because our growing sick will make it obvious it is time to get out.

No one is perfect and we are all learning and growing, and we won't reach perfection alone.

Look to the Lord for your wellbeing because people will fail you. Although we are his hands and feet in the world, we cannot give you what only He can.

That said, if I unnecessarily offended you in anything I may have said, do accept my apologies. I am also learning and growing and will miss it to at times. We all see in part, but most important is to remain in his love.

I may end up leaving too. Maybe soon as I am seeking Him on it, but for now He has engaged my heart and will continue until the picture is clear.

God bless you big!
 
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Hi. I have had similar feelings of feeling this place is full of division and not a healthy environment, and at times I felt like I'm just being sucked into the mud and would have liked to hit the eject button, but God is just showing me how to handle it. I may miss it a time or two, but we continue to learn and grow.

I personally have seen little fruit, just speaking of my view, but I do find some here and there. In fact, I think I've even said in the past that I'm going, but find myself back in. I'll tell you why.

As I said, I'm dealing with a life and death situation for nearly a year now. I had been seeking the Lord on it and although He would give me things here and there on it, these were steps to take, like guiding me step by step and I wasn't happy with that. The matter is such a serious matter and told time is of the essence so i was freaking out. I want to know which way to go because the experts are saying it's all bad, but a decision needs to be made. And some thought their way may be short term bad, but long haul good. And everyone is different so it may not be as bad, or it may be worse. There is no guarantee. And no one agrees with each other; being pulled in different directions.

I won't get too specific because it involves others, but it was a very gloomy picture. For myself I couldn't care less, but this is happening to others too.

So the Lord gave me some insight ...great stuff, but appears this is going to be a walk of faith step by step.

Now here is the thing, during this time I'm getting dreams and visions from Him regarding the body of Christ.

It literally frustrated me because I wanted Him to keep on the issue I'm dealing with, but it wouldn't stop. On and on. I won't share as if the maturity is not there, people will just use these things as weapons to attack each other instead of grieving and allowing the Holy Spirit to intercede and however He may work.

I don't go to a physical church, haven't for years, so figured it may just be with fellowships beyond the four walls that I may also be involved in. Since He kept on there, I took it to mean He wants me to trust my situation in his hands and give attention to something He wants to draw my attention to.

I'm trying to be faithful to Him there, and I literally see what appears to be a miracle taking place on this end.

And, miraculously, when things looked there worse, I had, and still have, the peace that passes all understanding.

I hope to share in near future the biggest thing He taught me through this, how fear robs us of hearing from Him and opens the door to being robbed of things He's given us to guide us.

So I share some of your sentiments. In fact I recently shared with another how I am growing discouraged and don't see fruit, and don't see it as a healthy environment and want to move on because God knows I did not choose this, getting out of my God bubble, but He has now engaged my heart and I do not feel I am at heart released from it yet.

Fruit takes time to grow. It begins as a seed and we share, then let the Lord land that seed where it needs to go. Others He will use to water it, but He does the work and makes it grow.

I personally do not see this place as a healthy environment for those that have mental issues, but each as the Lord leads. You can always avoid the areas that contribute to you feeling sick, or you can check out and return when you feel healthier. I thought you had some great things to share. My only real issue was that you appeared to look to blame others and although GOD DOES NOT IGNORE CONTRIBUTORS AND THAT IS FOUND IN SCRIPTURES, HE DOES EXPECT US TO HEAR FROM HIM FOREMOST FOR OUR WELLBEING.

Sorry for the caps. I'm not yelling. I just want to emphasize that point.

You follow what you feel the LORD has laid on your heart. I like to say if we are unsure of his voice, it will become more apparent with time because our growing sick will make it obvious it is time to get out.

No one is perfect and we are all learning and growing, and we won't reach perfection alone.

Look to the Lord for your wellbeing because people will fail you. Although we are his hands and feet in the world, we cannot give you what only He can.

That said, if I unnecessarily offended you in anything I may have said, do accept my apologies. I am also learning and growing and will miss it to at times. We all see in part, but most important is to remain in his love.

I may end up leaving too. Maybe soon as I am seeking Him on it, but for now He has engaged my heart and will continue until the picture is clear.

God bless you big!
You are blaming me. No disrespect but this is why I'm leaving here. You're supposed to support the weak and not compare yourself to them and tell them how strong you are. Please don't respond further. I have no desire to debate with you or anyone. I need healing not debate

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
 
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Hi. I have had similar feelings of feeling this place is full of division and not a healthy environment, and at times I felt like I'm just being sucked into the mud and would have liked to hit the eject button, but God is just showing me how to handle it. I may miss it a time or two, but we continue to learn and grow.

I personally have seen little fruit, just speaking of my view, but I do find some here and there. In fact, I think I've even said in the past that I'm going, but find myself back in. I'll tell you why.

As I said, I'm dealing with a life and death situation for nearly a year now. I had been seeking the Lord on it and although He would give me things here and there on it, these were steps to take, like guiding me step by step and I wasn't happy with that. The matter is such a serious matter and told time is of the essence so i was freaking out. I want to know which way to go because the experts are saying it's all bad, but a decision needs to be made. And some thought their way may be short term bad, but long haul good. And everyone is different so it may not be as bad, or it may be worse. There is no guarantee. And no one agrees with each other; being pulled in different directions.

I won't get too specific because it involves others, but it was a very gloomy picture. For myself I couldn't care less, but this is happening to others too.

So the Lord gave me some insight ...great stuff, but appears this is going to be a walk of faith step by step.

Now here is the thing, during this time I'm getting dreams and visions from Him regarding the body of Christ.

It literally frustrated me because I wanted Him to keep on the issue I'm dealing with, but it wouldn't stop. On and on. I won't share as if the maturity is not there, people will just use these things as weapons to attack each other instead of grieving and allowing the Holy Spirit to intercede and however He may work.

I don't go to a physical church, haven't for years, so figured it may just be with fellowships beyond the four walls that I may also be involved in. Since He kept on there, I took it to mean He wants me to trust my situation in his hands and give attention to something He wants to draw my attention to.

I'm trying to be faithful to Him there, and I literally see what appears to be a miracle taking place on this end.

And, miraculously, when things looked there worse, I had, and still have, the peace that passes all understanding.

I hope to share in near future the biggest thing He taught me through this, how fear robs us of hearing from Him and opens the door to being robbed of things He's given us to guide us.

So I share some of your sentiments. In fact I recently shared with another how I am growing discouraged and don't see fruit, and don't see it as a healthy environment and want to move on because God knows I did not choose this, getting out of my God bubble, but He has now engaged my heart and I do not feel I am at heart released from it yet.

Fruit takes time to grow. It begins as a seed and we share, then let the Lord land that seed where it needs to go. Others He will use to water it, but He does the work and makes it grow.

I personally do not see this place as a healthy environment for those that have mental issues, but each as the Lord leads. You can always avoid the areas that contribute to you feeling sick, or you can check out and return when you feel healthier. I thought you had some great things to share. My only real issue was that you appeared to look to blame others and although GOD DOES NOT IGNORE CONTRIBUTORS AND THAT IS FOUND IN SCRIPTURES, HE DOES EXPECT US TO HEAR FROM HIM FOREMOST FOR OUR WELLBEING.

Sorry for the caps. I'm not yelling. I just want to emphasize that point.

You follow what you feel the LORD has laid on your heart. I like to say if we are unsure of his voice, it will become more apparent with time because our growing sick will make it obvious it is time to get out.

No one is perfect and we are all learning and growing, and we won't reach perfection alone.

Look to the Lord for your wellbeing because people will fail you. Although we are his hands and feet in the world, we cannot give you what only He can.

That said, if I unnecessarily offended you in anything I may have said, do accept my apologies. I am also learning and growing and will miss it to at times. We all see in part, but most important is to remain in his love.

I may end up leaving too. Maybe soon as I am seeking Him on it, but for now He has engaged my heart and will continue until the picture is clear.

God bless you big!
I apologize that my broken heart and mind got in the way of your divisions and contentions. I'll go away and heal in solitude.
 
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You are blaming me. No disrespect but this is why I'm leaving here. You're supposed to support the weak and not compare yourself to them and tell them how strong you are. Please don't respond further. I have no desire to debate with you or anyone. I need healing not debate

2 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
No, I'm not, but as not to disturb you I will agree to disagree with you and will share no more on this, unless the Lord tells me otherwise, but I don't see that as He doesn't knock down the door of our hearts when we don't open to Him, and neither do I look to, but I do feel compelled to at least say I disagree to the accusations.

God bless you. May you find your joy and peace in Him. I will read no more here or write anymore, unless He makes it clear I am to do otherwise
 
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No, I'm not, but as not to disturb you I will agree to disagree with you and will share no more on this, unless the Lord tells me otherwise, but I don't see that as He doesn't knock down the door of our hearts when we don't open to Him, and neither do I look to, but I do feel compelled to at least say I disagree to the accusations.

God bless you. May you find your joy and peace in Him. I will read no more here or write anymore, unless He makes it clear I am to do otherwise
Your situation isn't mine. You don't know the pain I feel. I try to share it and I was accused of blaming others. Well your contentions do trigger my illness. It's a fact. Don't blame me because you guys cant have proper fellowship but instead you need divisions and contentions to help happy. I hate it.
 
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No, I'm not, but as not to disturb you I will agree to disagree with you and will share no more on this, unless the Lord tells me otherwise, but I don't see that as He doesn't knock down the door of our hearts when we don't open to Him, and neither do I look to, but I do feel compelled to at least say I disagree to the accusations.

God bless you. May you find your joy and peace in Him. I will read no more here or write anymore, unless He makes it clear I am to do otherwise
Look I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but this place disturbs me. I thought I could handle it but I can't. This isn't the place to find healing. No, not all.
 
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People boast in their church attendance and about how peaceful their church is. But then they come online and fight over politics and theology. They do the opposite here. Why would i want their church or their website? I was doing good by myself. I praise the Lord daily on Facebook. I'll stay there and worship.
 
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Here is one reason debate is evil. I want peace with everyone. If that means staying away from them then that's what I'll do.

Hebrews 12:14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: 15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled
 
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Many years ago I had dreams that I was alone. In one dream i walked alone and i tried warning people about doom but no one listened. In the end of the dream I was in a garden with three friends behind me. The dream had three parts to it. It seems like a dream from God but I can't say for sure. Anyway I'm going to go find that peace and joy again.
 
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Before I go I want to talk about healing. Healing is our mission. Not endless theological debate that never gets resolved and not politics. We search out the lost and and hurting. We seek out and heal the afflicted, outcast, rejected and abused people.
 
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I feel better already. God has given me everything I need to worship him in his love. He gave me sound doctrine, a roof over my head, and food to eat. He gave me a simple hobby that gives me something fun to do. It's therapeutic. I have Facebook where I praise and worship daily in his word, prayer and thanksgiving. He knew I would walk alone. He didn't forsake me and I didn't forsake his assembly either. Me and Jesus are on good terms. Anyway, that's my last post, I hope lol.
 
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Look I'm sorry if I misunderstood you but this place disturbs me. I thought I could handle it but I can't. This isn't the place to find healing. No, not all.
There have been many that agree, some stayed anyway, for whatever reason; others left within 30 minutes , or a day, after looking around, at the chaos and disorder and sinfulness promoted.
 
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Thank you. :wave:God bless.
I lived on this one for many years.

Psalms 51:17 KJV
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
 
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