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Originally posted by ladylove
Patmo,
You are wrong. Since you cannot condense your viewpoint in a short paragraph I have to conclude that you don't understand your own position. That was all I was asking, it is not too much.
That sounds real new age, pal. But, okay, I will give you the benefit of the doubt, care to explain what the covenental, holistic perspective is? I want verses in context from Scripture for this to be valid. If you can't back up your position, you are not worth my time. This had better be good. *arms folded*
Originally posted by Patmosman_sga
I suppose you would conclude that Paul doesn't understand his own position since he never summed it up in one paragraph. If that's what you wanted, you should have said so in the first place. But let's look back at what you said:
Originally posted by Patmosman_sga
Now, that sounds like you were demanding a detailed explanation, not a one-paragraph summation. You can't have it both ways. If you want one paragraph, I can do it in two sentences: Jesus Christ, having died and risen from the dead, now exists in the very form which all creation will exist in the fully consummated kingdom of God. The life he lived in the flesh is the pattern for the life we must live in anticipation of the coming kingdom.
Originally posted by ladylove
I agree with your last two sentences. So what has this to do with the 3 leaders, the subject of this thread?
Originally posted by Patmosman_sga
It means that living for the kingdom of God is all about Jesus, not Bush, Hussein, Arafat, Mugabe or any other earthly ruler. Earthly kingdoms rise and fall, but Christ's kingdom and reign will never end. As long as you focus on things that must end, you will always think you're living in the "end times." But because Christ is risen from the dead, we have nothing to fear, not even the "end of the world." In Christ, we are already taking part in a kingdom which has no end.
Originally posted by Patmosman_sga
It means that living for the kingdom of God is all about Jesus, not Bush, Hussein, Arafat, Mugabe or any other earthly ruler. Earthly kingdoms rise and fall, but Christ's kingdom and reign will never end. As long as you focus on things that must end, you will always think you're living in the "end times." But because Christ is risen from the dead, we have nothing to fear, not even the "end of the world." In Christ, we are already taking part in a kingdom which has no end.
Originally posted by ladylove
So Patmos, are you one of those who hold a preterist view?
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