Hate Speech

[essentialsaltes]

Yeah but if I dont know what it is, I dont know if it fits one of the carve-outs or not - and there's a bunch of them.

Probably 'fighting words' would have the most overlap with hate speech. But most of the explicit (and they are explicit) examples of such talk in Supreme Court cases have been ruled to be free speech.

Just about everything the Westboro Baptists has shouted and waved on signs, from 'God Hates Snappy Dressers' to 'Thank God for Dead US Soldiers' has been free speech.

"Lone dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech."

And Justice Alito is almost always wrong about things, so there.

 

[Hammster]

I dont. But you must because you opined that its protected. How could you say that if you dont know what it is?

I know that others have said that hate speech shouldn’t be protected. I’m wondering what’s meant by hate speech. If you don’t have an answer, then you, too, can wait for one.

 

[durangodawood]

Probably 'fighting words' would have the most overlap with hate speech. But most of the explicit (and they are explicit) examples of such talk in Supreme Court cases have been ruled to be free speech.

Just about everything the Westboro Baptists has shouted and waved on signs, from 'God Hates Snappy Dressers' to 'Thank God for Dead US Soldiers' has been free speech.

"Lone dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech."

And Justice Alito is almost always wrong about things, so there.

Yeah youre probably right.

And speaking for myself I'd feel justified in firing anyone who says "God hates snappy dressers."

 

[Robban]

This topic came up in another thread. Some are saying that hate speech shouldn’t be free speech, while others have argued that free speech protects hate speech. I’m in the second group.

For those who think that hate speech shouldn’t be included in free speech, can you give a working definition of hate speech?

The tongue is located behind two rows of teeth, lips that can close watertight and yet
can cause so much damage.

How much more so if it were hanging outside?

What should one do then,

The mouth is the gate,
one should allow the gatekeeper to only open the gate for a purpose.

Not leave it open for gossip and slander.

 

[Hammster]

The tongue is located behind two rows of teeth, lips that can close watertight and yet
can cause so much damage.

How much more so if it were hanging outside?

What should one do then,

The mouth is the gate,
one should allow the gatekeeper to only open the gate for a purpose.

Not leave it open for gossip and slander.

Uh...okay.

 

[Clare73]

From what?

I mean saying hateful things can have consequences which no special principle should automatically shield you from.

What is hateful to one man is truth to another.
Who gets to decide?

 

[durangodawood]

What is hateful to one man is truth to another.
Who gets to decide?

Each person gets to decide.

 

[Clare73]

Each person gets to decide.

For everyone?

 

[durangodawood]

For everyone?

No. I said each person gets to decide.

 

[Aldebaran]

Each person gets to decide.

Until one in power decides that "hate speech" needs to be banned, and then decides for everyone what hate speech is.

 

[durangodawood]

Until one in power decides that "hate speech" needs to be banned, and then decides for everyone what hate speech is.

Yeah, anything could happen.