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Or introducing heretical loopholes, by saying that [belief in/...] baptism for the forgiveness of sins isn't required for salvation.
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I don't understand the question.
Should we use reason and rationality to understand the Bible and even boldly claim what is right and true? Sure.
Should we have public discussions about what constitutes Christian orthodoxy? Sure.
Should we judge the salvation of others? No.
We can, and should IMO, affirm the uniqueness of Christianity and what God has done for us through Christ but that does not mean that we need or even should use those statements in the manner is which you are proposing.
We do not need to turn the Good News into Bad News.
We should not use the Gospel as a forensic tool to determine who just ain't gonna make it all the way.
It's not for us to decide nor should it be...
My mommy always said I had the bestest common sense of all
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Thus far, catholics, lutherans and most others agree that baptism in itself doesnt save us. Do you agree?
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Then you should have no problem with
1. Making your "clarifications" clearly distinct from the Creed.
2. Not placing beliefs about Scripture that may not be held by everyone above belief in God.
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Have you studied the "judge not" verses? If you pay special attention, you'll notice the theme in them is that when you are doing the same things you judge others of, YOU BRING JUDGMENT ONTO YOURSELF.
It isn't saying "use no discernment" "do not test the spirits", "do not use any evaluation as to what doctrine one comes with"... does it?
Otherwise, Jesus indeed leave us as helpless orphans down here without any way to use any discernment as to false teachers, what's evil, what's right or anything else.
I think you should do a study on judging. Jesus also said not to judge "by mere appearance, but use righteous judgment". (John 7:24)
He never said don't judge anything -- you make judgments & assessements every single day, and so do I.
In fact, PAUL taught us to judge those INSIDE THE CHURCH, not outside the church.
1 Cor. 5 12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?
13 But those who are outside God judges.
We judge, we're to do it correctly and not be hypocrites in doing the same sins we point out in others.
Not to condemn others - but for awareness and truth.
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