Has the joke "spaghetti moster" a deeper meaning for modern atheism?

[Dmitri Martila]

Satanic Atheism: ``PROVE to me the spaghetti monster (FSM) doesn't exist".

Who has the faith, trust in one? If no one, then nothing to prove. But the ones have, who invented it. The atheists. Therefore the atheists are playing the paganism. Thus, they are pagans. The spaghetti monster is also the so called "straw-man fallacy". Repent.
Secondly, because atheism asks for such proof, then the atheism is not rejecting the idea, what dead matter can be god. Atheism is very paganic, isn't it?

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Can we let that happen? Isn't it the violation of Poe's law?

Suppose the true answers are: Yes. No. Then let us talk on the reading.

Quotes:

``All activity requires a good reason, else one does not lift a finger off the bed in the morning.". Well why we are developing the nuclear weapons? There is no nuclear war you know. Just for the case. Then repent in sinning, in the Church, just for the case. It is surely reasonable reason to repent. They reject it by the invented story: man comes to council of New York with warning: "flying fire dragons will attack the city. Call the army." My rejection of this craziness is following: the death by a dragon is not on same logical level, as the eternal burning in the lake of fire near the satan. Wanna be less tortured? Then less promote the atheism.

The fashion is wrongly called ``Standards of beauty''. Because the Standards, as the name says, are never changing. Therefore, let us build our character on the Uniting Standards. The spaghetti being god (their ``monster''), atheists understand much better. So, is the atheism the neo-paganism? Historically the advanced Roman pagans have not believed in divine nature of their statues, but they played their worshiping; and the system and political fashion supported this play (many Russians say: "all our life is play"). The proof, what atheism is the old bad paganism, you see here. There is also important theological information and the physical and social one. You simply need to read this, if you want, dear theist. I am not writing for busy atheists. Very likely, that they are busy with satanic activities. Even the unconscious killers of our believing souls are the killers by the fact.

Dear theist, you have kept the mind in the talks with atheists, it is very unusual: the atheism progresses very rapidly. Perhaps I can lift the fog, with which atheism covers atheists from our eyes: http://www.proza.ru/2015/10/01/2018

 

[AtWhatCost]

I think it is a comeback as deep as "Oh yeah?"

 

[Dmitri Martila]

I think it is a comeback as deep as "Oh yeah?"

Why you have ignored the text? You have not downloaded the file from viXra. That is prophetised by God in the New Testament: love cools down in the last days.

 

[Freodin]

The "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is an image, used to demonstrate an (at first very specific) argument. In a "theological" way, any forms of "worship" of the FSM could be seen - just as the statues and images of the pagan ancient cultures - in the same way as icons are seen in the orthodox church.

As for the "love that cools down in the last days": if you want to show your "love" for your readers, strive to write better english!

 

[Dmitri Martila]

The "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is an image...
As for the "love that cools down in the last days": if you want to show your "love" for your readers, strive to write better english!

If you can't read my English, would you like I teach you to? Let my fun be, O.K.? I am going into the grave, then what is your problem? Let my fun be. I am having fun to save the theists from your kind.

 

[Freodin]

If you can't read my English, would you like I teach you to? Let my fun be, O.K.? I am going into the grave, then what is your problem? Let my fun be. I am having fun to save the theists from your kind.

Basic communication skills, comrade! If you want your statements to be received, it helps enormously to render them in a way that doesn't leave your reader wondering:"Now what did he mean with that?" If you want your essays to be read and received, it becomes necessary.

Usually, I am good enough at deciphering what others mean... even if english isn't my native language also. But if you think that a good and polite way to start a discussion on an open forum is to whine "You didn't download my text! You don't love God!", then criticizing your language skills in presenting said text is not too much.

This is the "philosophy" forum. You should at least have some standards in expressing your thoughts... but I am aware that not anyone can do that. But the least you should do it to adress the posts that were made in response to yours.

So, how about you start doing that?

 

[Dmitri Martila]

This is the "philosophy" forum.

I am surprised, that your kind is not willing to read the leading atheist - Hawking. He teaches you, that "Philosophy is dead"; therefore the Philosophy is not yours, but my subject.

 

[quatona]

I am surprised, that your kind

What kind would that be?

is not willing to read the leading atheist - Hawking.

Atheism is a lack of belief. It doesn´t require a leader.

He teaches you, that "Philosophy is dead"; therefore the Philosophy is not yours, but my subject.

So apparently he taught that to you.

 

[Dmitri Martila]

What kind would that be?

Atheism is a lack of belief. It doesn´t require a leader.

So apparently he taught that to you.

So, the denial tactic again. Then I must turn directly to satan to rip your mind out of his mouth?

 

[quatona]

So, the denial tactic again.

I was denying what exactly?

Then I must turn directly to satan to rip your mind out of his mouth?

I don´t know that a satan exists. So this is the wrong question to ask me - I can´t give you any recommendations in that department.
But, in any case, I wish you the best of luck with that enterprise.

 

[Dmitri Martila]

I was denying what exactly?

I don´t know that a satan exists. So this is the wrong question to ask me - I can´t give you any recommendations in that department.
But, in any case, I wish you the best of luck with that enterprise.

It is the favorite tactic of atheism: the nonsense tactic. Never misses a theist's common sense, it destroys his faith. Isn't it correct? Stop sinning, brother!

 

[quatona]

It is the favorite tactic of atheism: the nonsense tactic.

Could you describe the "nonsense tactic" - just so I know what you are talking about?

Never misses a theist's common sense, it destroys his faith. Isn't it correct?

Since I don´t even know what you mean by "nonsense tactic", and since I have absolutely no interest in destroying your faith - no, it doesn´t seem to be correct here.
I mean, it wasn´t me who came here to approach you about your theism. Remember, it was you who created this thread, making assumptions about atheism.
So, at this point, my best guess is that you are projecting heavily.

 

[Freodin]

Say, is it just me, or is the quality of theistic arguments and argumentation steadily going down here?

 

[Eudaimonist]

Armchair psychology has been taken over by the asylum inmates.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Check the fresh today news: http://vixra.org/abs/1509.0234
Can we let that happen? Isn't it the violation of Poe's law?

Suppose the true answers are: Yes. No. Then let us talk on the reading.

Quote:

The fashion is wrongly called ``Standards of beauty''. Because the Standards, as the name says, are never changing. Therefore, let us build our character on the Uniting Standards. The spaghetti being god (their ``monster''), atheists understand much better. So, is the atheism the neo-paganism? Historically the advanced Roman pagans have not believed in divine nature of their statues, but they played their worshiping; and the system and political fashion supported this play (many Russians say: "all our life is play"). The proof, what atheism is the old bad paganism, you see here. There is also important theological information and the physical and social one. You simply need to read this, if you want, dear theist. I am not writing for busy atheists. Very likely, that they are busy with satanic activities. Even the unconscious killers of our believing souls are the killers by the fact.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster was invented to illustrate a point about how arbitrary and made up religious beliefs are. It's not an actual deity or being that is revered in any way by anyone. It's a joke, and one that obviously went right over your head, which makes it that much more funny that you are arguing against it.

The rest of you OP is an unintelligible mess and until you clear up some of the points you want to discuss, I won't go on any further.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Check the fresh today news: http://vixra.org/abs/1509.0234
Can we let that happen? Isn't it the violation of Poe's law?

Suppose the true answers are: Yes. No. Then let us talk on the reading.

Quote:

The fashion is wrongly called ``Standards of beauty''. Because the Standards, as the name says, are never changing. Therefore, let us build our character on the Uniting Standards. The spaghetti being god (their ``monster''), atheists understand much better. So, is the atheism the neo-paganism? Historically the advanced Roman pagans have not believed in divine nature of their statues, but they played their worshiping; and the system and political fashion supported this play (many Russians say: "all our life is play"). The proof, what atheism is the old bad paganism, you see here. There is also important theological information and the physical and social one. You simply need to read this, if you want, dear theist. I am not writing for busy atheists. Very likely, that they are busy with satanic activities. Even the unconscious killers of our believing souls are the killers by the fact.

Is English your first language?

 

[quatona]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster was invented to illustrate a point about how arbitrary and made up religious beliefs are.

Not to get inappropriately serious and reasonable in this thread, and not to put too fine a point to it, but:
I have never understood it to be invented for that purpose. Rather, I think it´s meant to merely illustrate that exceptional and unfalsifiable claims, by their very nature, shelter themselves from scrutinity, investigation and rational discussion - no matter how ridiculous they may be.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Say, is it just me, or is the quality of theistic arguments and argumentation steadily going down here?

 

[Freodin]

Not to get inappropriately serious and reasonable in this thread, and not to put to fine a point to it, but:
I have never understood it to be invented for that purpose. Rather, I think it´s meant to merely illustrate that exceptional and unfalsifiable claims, by their very nature, shelter themselves from scrutinity, investigation and rational discussion - no matter how ridiculous they may be.

One could say both: it was invented - or some might say it revealed itself! - for the purpose of showing that only presenting the Christian creationist version in schools is unjustified... and, because it is both arbitrary and made up as well assheltered from scrutiny, investigation and rational discussion, literally every explanation would need to be presented.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Not to get inappropriately serious and reasonable in this thread, and not to put to fine a point to it, but:
I have never understood it to be invented for that purpose. Rather, I think it´s meant to merely illustrate that exceptional and unfalsifiable claims, by their very nature, shelter themselves from scrutinity, investigation and rational discussion - no matter how ridiculous they may be.

Specifically, it was invented as a parody of Creationism to fight the Kansas School Board decision to include creationism in public school science classes as a viable alternative to teaching evolution. By showing that evidence supporting creationism is essentially the same as evidence supporting Pastafarianism, the movement was able to dissuade the School Board from allowing creationism any time in the classroom. Since then, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has become a sort of phenomenon amongst atheists that purposely adopted it as a religion for themselves to mock and deride other, "real religions".