Has the Good News been preached throughout the whole world?

[TheSensitive1]

With the World Wide Web. I think so. That being said in:
Matthew 24:14 Jesus says
"And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it' and then, finally, the end will come."

A co-worker and I got into an hour descussion over this and he beleives that the Good News about the Kingdom has been preached throughout the world.
YOUR THOUGHTS:

 

[NewLight04]

i think it many ways it has by cd, by the world wide web, tv/radio stations that broadcast sermons.

 

[TheSensitive1]

i think it many ways it has by cd, by the world wide web, tv/radio stations that broadcast sermons.

You are so right my dearest friend. I never thought about all of that!

 

[PorcelainHeart]

Not everyone knows about God, but those who do know don't follow in his foot steps.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

With the World Wide Web. I think so. That being said in:
Matthew 24:14 Jesus says
"And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it' and then, finally, the end will come."

A co-worker and I got into an hour descussion over this and he beleives that the Good News about the Kingdom has been preached throughout the world.
YOUR THOUGHTS:

In every generation since the ascension! Especially again in the seven years of the great tribulation -by the two eye-witnesses carried on sattellite tv (every eye sees them when they are killed and lie in the streets of Jerusalem -so every eye had been seeing them already, IMO) and by the 144,000 who are converted and by those who are martyred and by the angels who fly with the everlasting gospel within the heavens in those seven years.


Col 1:5,6 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
Which is come unto you, as [it is] in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as [it doth] also in you, since the day ye heard [of it], and knew the grace of God in truth:

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and [be] not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, [and] which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

 

[DeaconDean]

It is just my opinion, but I don't believe so. I believe that God's Holy word, the Bible can not lie because it is His word to us from us. And the Bible says that God "cannot lie" (Titus:1:2), Jesus is God, Jesus was God made in the flesh, Jesus said the word would be preached throughout the world as a testamony. Then the end would come. Since it hasn't come, then it's possible it hasn't yet. But now I know that with the world wide web, cd's, bibles being handed out by missionaries, radio stations broadcasting 24-7, and evangelists visiting countries were the gospel could not be preached (i.e. China for example), I don't think it will be long before the end comes. Thats just my opinion.

 

[armothe]

Colossians 1:6, “All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and understood God's grace in all its truth.”

Colossians 1:23, “if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.”

Romans 1:8, “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.”


Romans 16:25-26, “Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;”

2 Timothy 4:6-17, “For I am already being offered, and the time of my departure is come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith: ....But the Lord stood by me, and strengthened me; that through me the message might be fully proclaimed, and that all the Gentiles might hear.”

 

[BarbB]

I'm with Deacon Dean. If it hasn't yet, it must be very close!

 

[TheSensitive1]

I'm with Deacon Dean. If it hasn't yet, it must be very close!

AMEN!

 

[parousia70]

I'm with Deacon Dean. If it hasn't yet, it must be very close!

Well, as Armothe pointed out, scripture testifies that the gospel was indeed preached throughout the whole world, to every creature under heaven and to all nations before the end of Pauls ministry, alomost 2000 years ago.

Any position that differs with this clear testimony is simply unbiblical.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Colossians 1:6, “All over the world this gospel is bearing fruit and growing, just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and understood God's grace in all its truth.”

Colossians 1:23, “if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.”

Romans 1:8, “First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.”


Romans 16:25-26, “Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;”

2 Timothy 4:6-17, “For I am already being offered, and the time of my departure is come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith: ....But the Lord stood by me, and strengthened me; that through me the message might be fully proclaimed, and that all the Gentiles might hear.”

The Gospel was preached all over the world without internet, tv, or radio, since the LORD Jesus ascended. All who will be born until His return will have an opportunity to hear the Good news -not to understand all mysteries, but to have the Light that lights every man that comes into the world lead them into 'all truth' of the Salvation offered and to know the LORD Jesus Christ.

Every person who seeks the Light that lights them and does not reject or neglect that Light will have an opportunity to hear -and miraculous stories abound in missions reports from all centuries -since the ascension- of those who sought and found. Some seek; all who seek find.

 

[tel0004]

Well, as Armothe pointed out, scripture testifies that the gospel was indeed preached throughout the whole world, to every creature under heaven and to all nations before the end of Pauls ministry, alomost 2000 years ago.

Any position that differs with this clear testimony is simply unbiblical.

How so. Paul and the apostiles never went to chinia, southern africia, Russia, and they didnt even know North American existed, so how would the gospel have been preached to them?

 

[ShaggyFlasko]

How so. Paul and the apostiles never went to chinia, southern africia, Russia, and they didnt even know North American existed, so how would the gospel have been preached to them?

First, we must establish priorities. Our number 1 priority is to uphold scripture in believing what it says and going from there to gain understanding. The scriptures say that the gospel was preached throughout the world, so it was.

However, the concept of the "world" was not the same as what we think of today. The ancient romans and jews didn't think of the entire globe when the spoke of the world, but of the inhabited lands or nations, particularly the roman empire.

Luke 2:1
Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth.

Acts 24:5
"For we have found this man a real pest and a fellow who stirs up dissension among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes.

11:28
One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world And this took place in the reign of Claudius.

17:6
When they did not find them, they began dragging Jason and some brethren before the city authorities, shouting, "These men who have upset the world have come here also;

19:27
"Not only is there danger that this trade of ours fall into disrepute, but also that the temple of the great goddess Artemis be regarded as worthless and that she whom all of Asia and the world worship will even be dethroned from her magnificence."

24:5
"For we have found this man a real pest and a fellow who stirs up dissension among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes.

Based on the unequivocal testimony of scripture and the understanding of the world or earth that was common when the New Testament was written, it is not difficult to see how Christ's words were fulfilled exactly as he intended, though we don't always understand.

If someone says that the gospel has not gone out into all the world. Was Paul mistaken when he said it had?

I hope that helps.

God bless.
-Bill

 

[yeshuasavedme]

How so. Paul and the apostiles never went to chinia, southern africia, Russia, and they didnt even know North American existed, so how would the gospel have been preached to them?

Travel was most certainly done between the 'western continents' and the other continents from the beginning of the establishment of civilization on them.
Only the dark ages stopped the trading between the western continents and those the Roman Empire ruled.

Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire world, wherever men, beast, or fowl dwelt, Nebuchadnezzar ruled them, says the Word of God: The western continents were inhabited, and the Olmecs were at their height when Nebuchadnezzar ruled the entire world -the men of the Americas and the beasts and fowl of the western continents were ruled by Him.

Saga America by Barry Fell is not a Christian book, but you can trace the travels of early men between the 'old' world and the 'new' in that book -but Mr Fell, not being a bible Believer did not know that Nebuchadnezzar ruled the Olmecs -as the Word of God says.

The Ships of Tarsus traveled between the continents and traded all manner of goods. In the book, Forgotten Worlds, by Berlitz, you can see underwater pictures of a causeway that was ruined that was made for huge ships to enter the city -which city was also completely destroyed, in South America.

Columbus did not discover America -as someone said, "He was greeted by those who were already here!"
-and the world was known to be round and Eratosthenes, a Libyan mathematician and librarian, used geometry and the degree of the sun's shadows at summer solstice a certain distance from the equator, to calculate the circumference of the earth, in 300 BC.

Travel has been done since our ancestors got off the Ark after the flood -especially after the language division that caused the spreading out to all the whole round earth.

This is the beginnning of a letter sent by Nebuchadnezzar to all peoples on all the earth -and it was sent to the western continents, and the Olmecs received a copy -for he ruled them;

Dan 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou [art] this head of gold.
Daniel 4
"Nebuchadnezzar the king,
To all peoples, nations, and languages that dwell in all the earth:
Peace be multiplied to you.
2 I thought it good to declare the signs and wonders that the Most High God has worked for me.
3 How great are His signs,
And how mighty His wonders!
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And His dominion is from generation to generation...."

It only takes one generation for the Gospel truth to be lost in any family -rebel parents deny the truth they know to their own children -over and over again, in the world: but the Gospel goes out to all the world, nonetheless.

 

[Starforsaken]

First, we must establish priorities. Our number 1 priority is to uphold scripture in believing what it says and going from there to gain understanding. The scriptures say that the gospel was preached throughout the world, so it was.

However, the concept of the "world" was not the same as what we think of today. The ancient romans and jews didn't think of the entire globe when the spoke of the world, but of the inhabited lands or nations, particularly the roman empire.

Luke 2:1
Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth.

Acts 24:5
"For we have found this man a real pest and a fellow who stirs up dissension among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes.

11:28
One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world And this took place in the reign of Claudius.

17:6
When they did not find them, they began dragging Jason and some brethren before the city authorities, shouting, "These men who have upset the world have come here also;

19:27
"Not only is there danger that this trade of ours fall into disrepute, but also that the temple of the great goddess Artemis be regarded as worthless and that she whom all of Asia and the world worship will even be dethroned from her magnificence."

24:5
"For we have found this man a real pest and a fellow who stirs up dissension among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes.

Based on the unequivocal testimony of scripture and the understanding of the world or earth that was common when the New Testament was written, it is not difficult to see how Christ's words were fulfilled exactly as he intended, though we don't always understand.

If someone says that the gospel has not gone out into all the world. Was Paul mistaken when he said it had?

I hope that helps.

God bless.
-Bill

This is total garbage. The whole world, is literally the whole world. So the people in all the other parts of the "world" who never had the gospel spread to them would never know of jesus according to your thinking. They aren't a part of the "world" so they dont need to have the gospel spread to them. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

[ShaggyFlasko]

This is total garbage. The whole world, is literally the whole world.

It's easy to insult someone's stance, while most people hesitant to change their thinking if there seems to be no alternative that honors scripture. Tell me how I should interpret those passages of the New Testament (perhaps passages like Rom. 1:8 and Colossians 1:6,23 as well). If you think I'm wrong, try to explain what's right.

I am exceedingly willing to listen and be proven wrong. However, it is completely unnecessary to call someone's thoughts garbage without an explanation. Let's be thoughtful and respectful, especially as Christians, toward one another.

So the people in all the other parts of the "world" who never had the gospel spread to them would never know of jesus according to your thinking. They aren't a part of the "world" so they dont need to have the gospel spread to them. Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

There seems to be a misunderstanding here that I may be able to clarify, if you please.

The first one, I think, comes from the idea that no one will come to Christ after the gospel is spread throughout the world and Revelation is fulfilled. To the contrary, John describes all the nations of the earth bringing their glory into the New Jerusalem. He even notes those who do not accept Christ as those wicked outside the gates, in the weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 21
24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.
25In the daytime (for there will be no night there) its gates will never be closed;
26and they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it;
27and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 22
15Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.

My point:
The spreading of the gospel over the world did not terminate the work of Christ and the Holy Spirit in regenerating and bringing salvation to the lost. The gospel will always be preached and the hearts of men will never stop gathering unto the Kingdom of God. I don't believe that the world was to end at the spreading of the gospel and there is no evidence that the Church will ever be destroyed.

Remember, the world spoken of here was the inhabited land, most often the Roman world. That's what they thought of when they said world. It's similar to the way we use the english language in modern times. If I said, "She's always got her head in the clouds", what would you think? Would that call for a literal interpretation, or would you understand what I was speaking of because you're familiar with the language and culture in which we're speaking? If we go back to the Roman Empire, is it likely that the common populace is going to think of "world" as a massive expanse of rock suspended in space or the land and regions that seem to compose the whole relevent world.

Paul said that the gospel went into all the world, what did he mean?

I have a question.

The whole world, is literally the whole world.

Is that what Paul "literally" meant? Remember, "literal" does not mean "the first thing that pops into our heads". It means only what the author intended it to mean. It's a mistake to see every word in scripture as meaning plain and simple what we would say, in our western culture that's 2000 years removed from their empire, language and culture.

Paul said that the gospel had been preached throughout the whole world, every creature under heaven! I will not deny it.

I hope that helped.

God bless.
-Bill

 

[DeaconDean]

My Bible says "throughtout the world for a testimony." Those were Jesus' words not Paul's! The gospel was not preached in China by 70 AD, nor was it preached in "America" by 70 AD, nor was it preached in South America. In fact, if it was, there certainly would have trace evidence to prove it. Furthermore, the Pacific Ocean islands are scattered abroad, how come the gospel didn't reach say the Hawaiian Islands until 1800's? Are they not God's children too? As Adronia Judson said: "I went to Burma as a missionary because I believed there were elect there." 1860. How could the gospel have been preached worldwide by 70 AD? It wasn't possible.

 

[ShaggyFlasko]

Well, you can take your own word and logic for it, or you can believe God's inspired apostle to the gentiles. I think it's a rather easy decision. Was Paul wrong in saying that the gospel had gone into all the world, to all creatures under heaven?

Why not interpret scripture by scripture instead of forming theology according to what you see in the world? Sola scriptura, anyone?

God bless.
-Bill

 

[HUBIE]

Bill,

I'm a firm believer in Sola Scriptura myself. I don't however agree that Paul's definition and Jesus's definition of "World" are/were the same. 1st Century Christians couldn't understand how Christs Return could be at midday and the middle of the night at the same time. We understand, because we know the earth is round and daytime here is the middle of the night on the other side. The Roman Empire was Paul's "World", but it wasn't Jesus's. My own personal opinion is that the scripture "Gospel" has NOT yet been preached to everyone. I think we are close, but no cigar yet.

Another prophecy to ponder is the Olive Tree. Israel became a nation again in 1948. Jesus said that this generation would not pass before his return. Soo.... how long is a generation? How many people left have not heard the Gospel?

Wouldn't it be cool to be witnessing to a guy/gal and look up to see Jesus coming in Glory! Oh, well..... it's obvious I'm weird....

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Why do you believe that there was no travel between the continents in the first century?
Travel was not (mostly) stopped beween the continents until the Barbarians invaded the Roman Empire.

Look, from the time of the confusion of languages mankind spread out over all the earth, and the merchants of Tarsus traded goods between the continents.

Is this a total discounting of the Words of Scripture that say that Nebuchadnezzar ruled wherever man or beast or fowl dwelt -over 'all the earth'

Dan 2:31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness [was] excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof [was] terrible.
Dan 2:32 This image's head [was] of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
Dan 2:36 This [is] the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, [art] a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

Dan 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou [art] this head of gold.


"[size=-1]The next year Nebuchadnezzar became king of Babylon; and he ruled for forty-three years, or until 561". -http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Nebuchadnezzar+ruled+what+years&btnG=Google+Search[/size]
& from the same search page;
"[size=-1]Nebuchadnezzar (ruled 43 years) 604-562. 3374, 3158, 603 BC,[/size] "
~~~~~~~http://www.cyberessays.com/History/100.htm
"The Olmec were a mother culture to later civilizations. The
culture of the Olmec started in Mexico's Gulf Coast between 1200 and
1400 B.C , approximately between the Trojan war, and the golden age of
Athens, and ended about 3000 years ago." http://www.cyberessays.com/History/100.htm

La Venta
Important Olmec culture site in the state of Tabasco, Mexico, La Venta was occupied between 1200-400 BC. http://archaeology.about.com/od/olmeccivilization/


"And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou [art] this head of gold."

In the book Saga America, by Barry Fell, there is documentation of a tablet from SA that tells of the death of the Egyptian Pharoah who ruled the SA nation (after Babylon no longer ruled, and probably after Alexander -the doc is in the book, can't remember the year or the Pharoah or his name).
The proof is all over America and archived in the Smithsonian -although the Smithsonian denies diffusionism, as it is politically incorrect- from the rock writing rubbings and pictures taken from the beginning of 'the modern' spread of western man through this nation that have been interpretated by even living Berber tribesmen from Africa who can read and write some of the same writings found and documented in the Smithsonian -which claims they are all 'cuvilinear magical rock drawings'!
The writings left on rock in America and documented include all writings from about all continents from about all time -and the writings that have never been deciphered of the natives in the western continents.

They left their prayers to their gods and God, carved in rock, in their own languages, and they came BC and AD. They came as Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Athiests, Celtic pagans, and later, as followers of Mohammed;Iberians, Nordic pagans, mockers of Christianity, and Believers in Christ Jesus; they all came and left their writings -just do a bit of research and see!

And Believers in the LORD Jesus came, and they spread the gospel in all ages to all nations in the earth -in all generations- and will continue to do so until the end of the world.