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Personally I do not have the inclination to be hard hearted. I can barely will it even if I wanted to. I am very gentle naturedvand ever benign in spirit. Or is this just a politely deluding term for fool, weakling and sentimental wimp? Is there something lost in calousness or is it, like a good pair of shoes, useful equipment?

I believe that training tge heart to be hard drags existence down it is a form of spiritual violence.
 
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Personally I do not have the inclination to be hard hearted. I can barely will it even if I wanted to. I am very gentle naturedvand ever benign in spirit. Or is this just a politely deluding term for fool, weakling and sentimental wimp? Is there something lost in calousness or is it, like a good pair of shoes, useful equipment?

I believe that training tge heart to be hard drags existence down it is a form of spiritual violence.
"To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." Just so, there is a time for hardness and a time for softness, a time for mercy and a time for strict justice. Life requires us to change and be flexible, and to exercise attention to nuance and unique circumstances.

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Do you believe in armchair causation as the world passes us by? I continually have a relativistic perspective where by internal attitudes "act at a distance" by instantly changing our relationship to our surruondings. I know that light can travel from me but what about vibes or emotions?
 
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Personally I do not have the inclination to be hard hearted. I can barely will it even if I wanted to. I am very gentle naturedvand ever benign in spirit. Or is this just a politely deluding term for fool, weakling and sentimental wimp? Is there something lost in calousness or is it, like a good pair of shoes, useful equipment?

There is room in the world for both the sensitive and the insensitive. I wouldn't worry about it, and recommend that you be content to flourish as an individual with the natural temperament that you do have.


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I think the hardness or lack of hardness of ones heart is secondary to the clarity of ones mind.

I don't quite dig that. I think studies have shown a pretty strong connection between people with "big hearts" (i.e., givers, etc.) regarding happiness, and not so much with "big brains". I'd say just knowing you're intelligent tells me nothing about your morals or level of psychological functioning or happiness; your level of giving, caring, compassion, etc., does tell me a good deal about these.
 
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This may sound stupid (guess) but is spiritual strength achievable through training?

Virtually anything is achievable to some degree at least through training, via neuroplasticity. This includes compassion, spirituality, etc.
 
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I don't quite dig that. I think studies have shown a pretty strong connection between people with "big hearts" (i.e., givers, etc.) regarding happiness, and not so much with "big brains". I'd say just knowing you're intelligent tells me nothing about your morals or level of psychological functioning or happiness; your level of giving, caring, compassion, etc., does tell me a good deal about these.

I said clarity of thought not intellectual prowess.

I think that people who have clarity of thought usually end up being givers and contributers. The good feeling you get from doing good and being involved, contributing and socializing is as clear as any mathematical proof.

Socializing is part of the healthy human psyche, some people can be very smart and neglect that part of their personal development.
 
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So is compassion best conceived as relief of suffering or the promotion of superabundant vitality. Or the utter destruction of all enemy forces?

I've been toying with the idea lately that compassion is largely an expression what I call the the Will to Paradise.

What I mean by this is that virtually everyone is keenly aware that we are not living in paradise, i.e., that the world contains suffering. Most people (sane people) disapprove of this condition. Perhaps the little child in them feels cheated. Perhaps the idea of Heaven makes for a startling contrast. In any case, they feel that there is something wrong with the world, at least in certain times and places.

Some people have the sense that paradise is something that can be created, even if just for a moment and just between two people, in this world. They feel efficacious. This allows their Will to Paradise to express itself in acts instead of being repressed in helpless anger at the world and at life. Some of such acts are compassionate acts.

When people are compassionate, they are willing paradise for the sake of paradise, although they might not conceptualize it that way. I'm talking about a deep motivation that may be just on the edge of awareness. The source of motivation for that will has something to do with the unease they feel about not living in paradise, and the feeling that it may be just barely in one's grasp.

The Will to Paradise can be frustrated, which may explain some of the odd self-protecting behaviors so many people engage in. I suspect that a lack of self-esteem (especially personal efficacy) may be involved. If people do not feel secure in themselves and their ability to create good values in the world, they may feel like they are living in a bunker fighting a losing battle, and that other people have to fend for themselves. More self-esteem generates a greater sense that compassionate acts are efficacious and worthwhile.

At the extreme worst end, I suspect that a few people are so tired at their efforts to have anything good in life that they become self-hating (or world-hating). They have given up, and cease to strive for what they feel to be good, opting for destruction instead.


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I said clarity of thought not intellectual prowess.

I think that people who have clarity of thought usually end up being givers and contributers. The good feeling you get from doing good and being involved, contributing and socializing is as clear as any mathematical proof.

Socializing is part of the healthy human psyche, some people can be very smart and neglect that part of their personal development.

Oh, cool. Good point.
 
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