How many of the students in question in the OP have their tuition paid by taxpayers? I mean if you are going to accuse them and threaten to take away tax dollars, you should already know who is using taxpayer dollars for their tuition, otherwise you are just yelling at the clouds.
Absolutely. Let's say a student gets up and says he is going to shoot students and teachers around the campus who disagree with him. I don't think such a student should be publicly funded. By all means students should have freedom of speech, but as young adults they should be held accountable for what they say. A student Nazi group demonstrates on campus, but I say if they espouse killing of Jews, encouraging people to kill Jews, they should not receive any public funds. Do you realize that universities already decide which groups are funded and which are not, that is, that they discriminate?
I am not threatening anything. we are having a discussion. Many of the universities are public, and even private universities like Harvard receive millions of dollars of federal funds.
Viewpoint discrimination is specifically against the First Amendment though. Your first example is an example of a true threat, which isn't covered by the 1A, but your second example, and the OP for that matter, are much more generalized which means they do not fall under that exception. And I also wonder exactly what you mean by "publicly funding a student."
Take one word out and make a post on it without answering the question. That means you have no idea if any of them are receiving tax dollars for their tuition, so you comment is baseless.
You didn't answer my question: "Do you realize that universities already decide which groups are funded and which are not, that is, that they discriminate?" Students, young adults, like the rest of us, have freedom of speech. That does not mean that adults cannot be held accountable for what they say. Universities that promote violence or racism should not, in my opinion, receive any federal funds. That's for starters.
You did not answer my question. How does it feel?
This is true. But state schools don't discriminate based on viewpoints, which is what you want to do.
Sure, they can be accountable for what they say. But the government can't be the body doing so except in very narrow situations.
Can you show any situations where a university, as opposed to students who attend it, have promoted violence or racism?
Of course they have to draw the line on violent groups. You're wrong to think that a university should fund a Nazi group because they have a different viewpoint. Nazis want the extermination of Jews, as does Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran. The world has now a barbaric act, horrible atrocities such as were committed by the Nazis and the Japanese and so many communist regimes. A line needs to be drawn. As to your question, many professors at universities advocate CRT, and universities sanction the teaching of CRT, which promotes racism. Again, there has to be some moral accountability. There should be some minimum moral standards not just at universities, but everywhere. The discrimination against Jews needs to stop. I think the students who tore down signs of missing Israelis should be admonished by the university. For example, Tlaib should be admonished by Democrats for continuing to spread the fake hospital story, which can foster more violent acts:
Moral accountability? What is that in relation to the law?Of course they have to draw the line on violent groups. You're wrong to think that a university should fund a Nazi group because they have a different viewpoint. Nazis want the extermination of Jews. The world has now seen a similar act by terrorists and those who support it should not be publicly funded. Many professors at universities advocate CRT, which promotes racism. There has to be some moral accountability. I think the students who tore down signs of missing Israelis should be admonished by the university. There should be some minimum moral standards not just at universities, but everywhere. For example, Tlaib should be admonished by Democrats for continuing to spread the fake hospital story, which can foster more violent acts:
Rep. Rashida Tlaib draws fire for not apologizing for saying Israel caused Gaza hospital blast
Democratic Reps. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., and Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., said that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion in Gaza despite Israel denying fault.abcnews.go.com
“Any university or college that peddles blatant antisemitism, especially after Hamas’ brutal attack on Israeli civilians, women and children, has no place molding the minds of future generations, never mind receiving millions of taxpayer funds to do so,” said Senator Scott. “We must not only call out this hate, but crush it wherever it rears its ugly head. If these schools don’t change their ways, my legislation hits them where it hurts – their pocketbooks. No college or university should receive a single cent from the federal government to fund violent antisemitism.”
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Great to see Senators so eager to pass blatantly unconstitutional laws. Even if this bill were to somehow pass and get signed, it would be challenged in a second because it would put state colleges in an impossible situation.“Any university or college that peddles blatant antisemitism, especially after Hamas’ brutal attack on Israeli civilians, women and children, has no place molding the minds of future generations, never mind receiving millions of taxpayer funds to do so,” said Senator Scott. “We must not only call out this hate, but crush it wherever it rears its ugly head. If these schools don’t change their ways, my legislation hits them where it hurts – their pocketbooks. No college or university should receive a single cent from the federal government to fund violent antisemitism.”
Senator Tim Scott Introduces Legislation to Defund Colleges and Universities that Promote Antisemitism — U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina
Today, U.S. Senator Tim Scott (R-S.C.), led Senators Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), Katie Britt (R-Ala.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) and James Lankford (R-Okla.) in introducing the Stop Antisemitism on College Campuses Act, which would rescind federal...
I was pleased and rather surprised at the swift action. There's a lot of racism and anti-Semitism in universities, as we all can see the government under Joe has used government resources to quash speech that is not towing the party line. No more money should go to universities that discriminate based upon racist and anti-Semitic views. For example, remember when transgender-rights activist Janet Mock was forced to withdraw from a Brown University event just because a pro-Israel group was cosponsor of the lecture? I wish people had stepped forward then, but now more people can see just how bad it is.
It's not swift action. This was a bill that was introduced months ago. And there is no way it would withstand constitutional muster since every example given of antisemitism is a form of speech or expression.
Sure, I won't argue that, though i strongly suspect we mean different things.
When has that happened?
If by discrimination you mean taking action against Jews or people of color then I agree with you. But that's not what you mean.
She wasn't forced to withdraw. There was a petition circulated against her coming and she chose to cancel her appearance. Not a good look for the students, but well within their rights to express their views.
