Halloween

[Armoured]

why don't you just celebrate idol worship while your at it?

Witches, ghosts, globlins - God says don't have anything to do with that stuff. It is to be condemned. There is no exemption clause about in the name of fun (by them who have been brainwashed).

The evilday - not holiday - exists because the commercial interests are pushing it.

I don't know that God "says" any such thing.

Nor does the Bible, with the exception of "witches" which refers to "poisoners" not warty ladies on broomsticks.

Honestly, some people will see evil in anything that isn't ashes and sack cloth.

You want to talk idol worship? I consider it far more idolatrous imbuing harmless costumes and a fun night for kids with an inherent even power than anything you describe.

If you personally have a problem with it, don't participate. End of problem.

 

[Douggg]

I don't know that God "says" any such thing.

Nor does the Bible, with the exception of "witches" which refers to "poisoners" not warty ladies on broomsticks.

Honestly, some people will see evil in anything that isn't ashes and sack cloth.

You want to talk idol worship? I consider it far more idolatrous imbuing harmless costumes and a fun night for kids with an inherent even power than anything you describe.

If you personally have a problem with it, don't participate. End of problem.

It is being forced onto society. I have a problem with it. And I am out to destroy it. May God bless my part in the destruction of Halloween.

The law should be no trick or treat solicitation - except to residences who have signs out - "halloween here". Halloween is being forced on society by the commerical interests pushing it.

 

[Inkfingers]

It is being forced onto society. I have a problem with it. And I am out to destroy it. May God bless my part in the destruction of Halloween.

Why single out Halloween though? That's like singling out same-sex marriage whilst ignoring no-fault divorce and promiscuity in the heterosexuals. Halloween is one day of the year, but people engage in idolatry every day of the year - it doesn't somehow become worse on Halloween.

I can understand protesting when Christian festivals are made decadent in a worldly manner (so easter, or harvest festival, or Christmas - yes, we all know that Christ probably wasn't born on 25th december but its a good day signified by light returning in the middle of darkness). But why complain about Halloween as idolatry of evil as if that doesn't happen every other single day of the year?

 

[Armoured]

It is being forced onto society. I have a problem with it. And I am out to destroy it. May God bless my part in the destruction of Halloween.

How is it being "forced" onto anyone?

May God grant you the wisdom and serenity to focus on more worthwhile things.

 

[Douggg]

Why single out Halloween though? That's like singling out same-sex marriage whilst ignoring no-fault divorce and promiscuity in the heterosexuals. Halloween is one day of the year, but people engage in idolatry every day of the year - it doesn't somehow become worse on Halloween.

I can understand protesting when Christian festivals are made decadent in a world manner (so easter, or harvest festival, or Christmas - yes, we all know that Christ probably wasn't born on 25th december but its a good day signified by light returning in the middle of darkness). But why complain about Halloween as idolatry of evil as if that doesn't happen every other single day of the year?

I am against the commercialization of Christmas as well. Santa and the whole bit - and the negative impacts of it on society.

For Christmas, no one comes to my door with give me a Christmas present. Nor, in the spirit of halloween, give me a Christmas present or you get a trick, i.e. extortion.

Get rid of Halloween. Use the money saved by families and indivduals, to pay down their debt instead.... and replace halloween with "debt freedom day". Everyone will be better off but the banksters and the commercial interests pushing halloween.

 

[Inkfingers]

I am against the commercialization of Christmas as well. Santa and the whole bit - and the negative impacts of it on society.

That I can understand, because it debases something Christian.

But Halloween does not do so. It is no more unholy than every other day of the year in a decadent society.

For Christmas, no one comes to my door with give me a Christmas present. Nor, in the spirit of halloween, give me a Christmas present or you get a trick, i.e. extortion.

Get rid of Halloween. Use the money saved by families and indivduals, to pay down their debt instead.... and replace halloween with "debt freedom day". Everyone will be better off but the banksters and the commercial interests pushing halloween.

That doesn't really answer my point Doug, that you are making a big thing of Halloween as if it is worse than the day before or the day after. Halloween is no less holy in its practices than any other day of the year, but we make a mockery of opposition to evil by singling it out as if it were.

 

[Douggg]

How is it being "forced" onto anyone?

May God grant you the wisdom and serenity to focus on more worthwhile things.

If you can't see that commercial interests are pushing halloween, you are blind. Replace halloween with "debt freedom day".

Do something that will help out families, instead of by artificial pressure of the commercial interests to buy candy, and damage their children's health, in addition to getting into prohibitions in Deuteronomy on such matters - get rid of halloween, the merchants sacred cow. And replace it with "debt freedom day".

 

[Douggg]

That doesn't really answer my point Doug, that you are making a big thing of Halloween as if it is worse than the day before or the day after. Halloween is no less holy in its practices than any other day of the year, but it makes a mockery of opposition to evil by singling it out as if it were.

Halloween is making a mockery of God's prohibition about witchcraft and the world of the occult. Replace halloween with "debt freedom day" and celebrate by making an extra payment on the family debt. I can assure you, that kids teeth won't miss the cavities.

Which would be better for the nation - "debt freedom day" or "halloween" ?
No to spending money on candy, on costumers, and use that money for "debt freedom day" instead.

The bible has NO SUPPORT for halloween. But it does have support for freedom from debt. Dare to change your mindset. You have been brainwashed.

 

[Armoured]

If you can't see that commercial interests are pushing halloween, you are blind. Replace halloween with "debt freedom day".

Do something that will help out families, instead of by artificial pressure of the commercial interests to buy candy, and damage their children's health, in addition to getting into prohibitions in Deuteronomy on such matters - get rid of halloween, the merchants sacred cow. And replace it with "debt freedom day".

I spent 20 bucks on decorations, and 20 bucks on candy this year. Hardly going into debt for it. And for that $40, I make some kids happy, make my kid happy, improve neighbourhood sense of community, and maybe, just maybe, have some fun myself. Terrible.

 

[Radagast]

if people do not wish to celebrate the holidays on the liturgical calendar, ok, that is their concern

Indeed.

If you're a Catholic, you can celebrate All Saints' Day. If you're a Protestant, you can celebrate Reformation Day. If you're a Pumpkin, you can celebrate Pumpkin Day. What's the problem?

 

[Inkfingers]

Halloween is making a mockery of God's prohibition about witchcraft and the world of the occult. Replace halloween with "debt freedom day" and celebrate by making an extra payment on the family debt. I can assure you, that kids teeth won't miss the cavities.

Which would be better for the nation - "debt freedom day" or "halloween" ?

The bible has NO SUPPORT for halloween. But it does have support for freedom from debt. Dare to change your mindset.

You'll find God's prohibitions mocked every day, so making a big thing of it happening on Halloween makes Christians look foolish as if we think Halloween evil is special evil when compared to what happens all the time.

 

[Douggg]

You'll find God's prohibitions mocked every day, so making a big thing of it happening on Halloween makes Christians look foolish as if we think Halloween evil is special evil when compared to what happens all the time.

You are making excuses for halloween. Replace with it with "debt freedom day".

 

[Inkfingers]

You are making excuses for halloween.

Really? How is calling it "no less holy in its practices than any other day of the year" excusing it?

On the contrary I'm just asking Christians not to make dramatic "damn the torpedos" attacks on one ship whilst a fleet of 363 others slips through.

 

[Douggg]

I spent 20 bucks on decorations, and 20 bucks on candy this year. Hardly going into debt for it. And for that $40, I make some kids happy, make my kid happy, improve neighbourhood sense of community, and maybe, just maybe, have some fun myself. Terrible.

You are not improving anything for your neighbourhood. You are imposing your involvement with witchcraft, globlins, ghosts and the occult on others. And sending the wrong message to your kids.

 

[Douggg]

Really? How is calling it "no less holy in its practices than any other day of the year" excusing it?

On the contrary I'm just asking Christians not to make dramatic "damn the torpedos" attacks on one ship whilst a fleet of 363 others slips through.

When you say halloween is no worse than any other day of the year - that is not true.

 

[Inkfingers]

When you say halloween is no worse than any other day of the year - that is not true.

I think you will find that every day is as filled with explicit and celebrated sin as is Halloween.

 

[Douggg]

I think you will find that every day is as filled with explicit and celebrated sin as is Halloween.

Do you want to get rid of Halloween, yes or no?

 

[Inkfingers]

Do you want to get rid of Halloween, yes or no?

No more or less than wanting a less sinful society on every day.

Targetting Halloween is giving the day too much importance when compared to all the rest of a year filled with sin.

 

[Douggg]

No more or less than wanting a less sinful society on every day.

Targetting Halloween is giving the day too much importance when compared to all the rest of a year filled with sin.

Discourage people with your words. That's what you are doing. You are trying to protect Halloween, by saying get rid of all sin. You are putting a condition on getting rid of halloween that is not possible.

Getting rid of halloween, however, is well within the realm of being possible. And I am going to do my part, praise God. And thank God for all them who wish to do likewise. Replace it with "freedom from debt" day.

 

[Inkfingers]

Discourage people with your words. That's what you are doing. You are trying to protect Halloween, by saying get rid of all sin. You are putting a condition on getting rid of halloween that is not possible.

Getting rid of halloween, however, is well within the realm of being possible. And I am going to do my part, praise God. And thank God for all them who wish to do likewise.

Please quote precisely where I said "get rid of all sin".

I said "less sinful society", because I acknowledge that an utterly sinless one is no likely to occur any time soon.

Getting rid of Halloween is not remotely possible; the mass of people support it and laugh at you complaining about it being the worship of the occult. They don't remotely care, and instead are being driven to think worries about it are just coming from rather strange ranting people.