Guys and Gals

[iambren]

Out of sheer curiosity I wondered if the answer to this question would lead to a bias:


If you could come back as a boy or a girl which would you choose? Feel free to elaborate.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

Out of sheer curiosity I wondered if the answer to this question would lead to a bias:


If you could come back as a boy or a girl which would you choose? Feel free to elaborate.

Definetly , a guy again.

While I appreciate the female gender, I enjoy not having all those feelings to work out which comes from being the weaker (emotionally) gender. That said, I also believe that women excel in certain things over men . Its interesting how God made the genders, for, we are wired pretty different with many similarities however.

Some things which I don't think id enjoy about being a woman are :

1. Not knowing if the Guy is really interested in the inner person , or if its all about him getting his hands on the external .

2. Having to deal with monthly menstrual cycles.

3. Trying to appeal to a mans fancy.

4. Having to put in a new face every morning with makeup .

5. Having to wait in long lines to use the toilet when out.


That said, I wouldn't mind giving it a try as a woman....for about 12 hours .

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Hey David, you forgot to say a reason you wouldn't want to be a woman is you wouldn't want to worry about being FAT

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

Hey David, you forgot to say a reason you wouldn't want to be a woman is you wouldn't want to worry about being FAT

Well, that's a given for both genders now isn't it ? But I think most likely women worry about that more than men .

 

[dayhiker]

I think I'd choose to come back as a man because I'm comfortable being a man.
But some women really get to enjoy life so if I felt I could grow into that I think I could enjoy being a woman.

I think women know more about emotions that most guys do. Guys are missing something of life because so many of us have shut down our emotions. So I'd welcome feeling a woman's emotion if I had some time to be prepared for it.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I would want to stay a woman. God does not make mistakes and I would not want to slap God in the face by saying he didn't make me right.

Also I would not want to be a man because the burden falls on man to be the head, work the land and answer to God for how he treats women and others. Since Adam sinned knowingly, he has a greater burden IMO. NO thanks.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Well, that's a given for both genders now isn't it ? But I think most likely women worry about that more than men .

yep we do, because a lot of men like you care about that more than the person we are inside. Thankfully Jesus looks to our hearts and not our appearance.

Also could you please explain what you mean by "weaker"? We definitely are not weaker spiritually, or mentally. Physically yes, but do you seriously think women are "weaker"?

Oh and BTW most women are not as you describe. We do not think only of how to be appeasing to males. We don't always wear or need make up, and we definitely are smart enough to tell the difference between someone who genuinely wants to get to know us as a person, from those that just want in our pants. You must really think you are something to make statements like that.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

yep we do, because a lot of men like you care about that more than the person we are inside. Thankfully Jesus looks to our hearts and not our appearance.

Also could you please explain what you mean by "weaker"? We definitely are not weaker spiritually, or mentally. Physically yes, but do you seriously think women are "weaker"?

Oh and BTW most women are not as you describe. We do not think only of how to be appeasing to males. We don't always wear or need make up, and we definitely are smart enough to tell the difference between someone who genuinely wants to get to know us as a person, from those that just want in our pants. You must really think you are something to make statements like that.

1. No actually, I consider the inner person over the outward appearance...but as a man who is visually hardwired by God , without apology I enjoy a woman who looks physically appealing at least according to my estimation.

2. Yes, I know women are the weaker sex. By that I don't mean it derogatorily. In fact, youd be hard pressed to find any Christian Preacher that would say otherwise. The Bible addresses this too in a bit more than just a general way --- we can go there if you desire .

3. It is a reality that women get prepared before going out on a date to hopefully make an impression and look good to the guy. So do men, but women spend far more time doing so. This isn't a bad thing . If I go out on a date, its because I truly want to get to know the person better, and taking a journey into pants is something I personally have resigned from doing now im committed to Christ. So your comment here doesn't apply to this guy...maybe some other guys though.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

............Since Adam sinned knowingly he has a greater burden IMO. NO thanks.

Eve was deceived , but Adam was duped (by Eve, to sin) . That's how it all went down in the beginning.

 

[blackribbon]

3. It is a reality that women get prepared before going out on a date to hopefully make an impression and look good to the guy. So do men, but women spend far more time doing so. .

What is this information based on? My brother-in-law takes twice as long as I do when we go out and spends more time in his closet picking out his clothes. (and he is a red-neck cowboy type)

This is a stupid stereotype that has no purpose. My showers are shorter than most men and even though I do my hair and makeup, I can be out the door from shower to car in 30 minutes. If I take longer than this, it is because I am doing other things while I am getting ready (like throwing a load in the washing machine while I am grabbing my clothes).

You really have very little idea of what being a woman in 2014 is like, do you? Most of us don't have the luxury of "being weak"....physically, emotionally, or spiritually. (though I'd challenge that women EVER were "weak").

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

What is this information based on? My brother-in-law takes twice as long as I do when we go out and spends more time in his closet picking out his clothes. (and he is a red-neck cowboy type)

This is a stupid stereotype that has no purpose. My showers are shorter than most men and even though I do my hair and makeup, I can be out the door from shower to car in 30 minutes. If I take longer than this, it is because I am doing other things while I am getting ready (like throwing a load in the washing machine while I am grabbing my clothes).

You really have very little idea of what being a woman in 2014 is like, do you? Most of us don't have the luxury of "being weak"....physically, emotionally, or spiritually. (though I'd challenge that women EVER were "weak").

a. This information is based on my personal experience, the experiences of the men and women I know in my circle of friends, and common sense. It may or may not be indicative of EVERY woman .

b. From the time I get out of bed ..if necessary...I can shower , get dressed, grab a PopTart for breakfast and be in my car driving away in 15 minutes max.

c. I have a very good idea what Todays Woman is like because I trust the Bible and know how each gender is wired by our Creator. In my life, I have interacted far more with women on a deeper level , than men . And I don't believe 'men are better than women' so please don't come away with that silly notion.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Eve was deceived , but Adam was duped (by Eve, to sin) . That's how it all went down in the beginning.

wrong again, Adam according to scriptures knew exactly what he was doing. He did it because of his love for Eve, not because she tricked him.

And you are also wrong about women being weaker. Well you are just wrong on all fronts, but you never listen and the bible says I shouldn't wrangle words with a fool

 

[epluribus36]

I believe I'll transfer to Heaven at some point after I die, and there will be no male or female, no pain, no worries, just all-encompassing love.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

wrong again, Adam according to scriptures knew exactly what he was doing. He did it because of his love for Eve, not because she tricked him.

And you are also wrong about women being weaker. Well you are just wrong on all fronts, but you never listen and the bible says I shouldn't wrangle words with a fool

a. Adam believed Eve and trusted in her . Sure Adam knew what he was doing as Eve didn't have to cram the apple down his throat to make him eat from it ; nevertheless, he got duped by his love for Eve instead of obedience to God .

b. Im fine with not sparring with you any longer, also. So...have you less stress in your life than a few months ago ? I trust so.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

we aren't sparring David. I am sharing my view and you are sharing yours. You are not 100% correct all the time and neither am I.
You just have a twisted way of looking at scripture and everything else.

 

[TheyCallMeDavid]

...............You just have a twisted way of looking at scripture and everything else.

According to YOUR standard, I 'have a twisted way of looking at scripture' .... but in fact, I have an accurate way of looking at what Scripture reports because I don't apply a filter of liberalism to it --- I take it literally and narrowly just as God intends it to be taken particularly on matters of morality and ethics . Many Christians today take scripture and infuse it with the philosophies of our culture so it comes out more palatable to their liking. I don't do that disingenuous stuff to scripture and therein lies the difference between us perhaps.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

yeah we know....you have arrived.

It's OK because I too take the bible literally contrary to YOUR opinion of how I take it. You say you have an accurate way of looking at what scripture has to say...by whose standards? How are you SO sure that you are looking at it accurately?
Maybe you just don't have the art of communicating it to others so they will want what you have.

 

[blackribbon]

a. This information is based on my personal experience, the experiences of the men and women I know in my circle of friends, and common sense. It may or may not be indicative of EVERY woman .

b. From the time I get out of bed ..if necessary...I can shower , get dressed, grab a PopTart for breakfast and be in my car driving away in 15 minutes max.

c. I have a very good idea what Todays Woman is like because I trust the Bible and know how each gender is wired by our Creator. In my life, I have interacted far more with women on a deeper level , than men . And I don't believe 'men are better than women' so please don't come away with that silly notion.

I didn't say "if necessary"...I was saying that is my usual routine and it probably would go for a date too.

You did present it like men were better..."weaker" has never been a complimentary term used for anything that I know.

Widowers are statistically more likely to commit suicide after the death of their spouse than widows. That is a fact and a measure of emotional resilience. I am not sure how that lines up with your "emotionally stronger" viewpoint.

Physically, a Marine friend use to come to my gymnastic workouts to get harder conditioning exercises for his men. My little girls could out pushup, out situp, and climb the rope two floors high using only their arms. These were cute little feminine 9 & 10 year old girls. He would sit in awe of what this girls could do because he couldn't do half of it when I showed him how the drills were done. In 4th grade, I could do more chin-ups than any other boy in my grade. I quickly learned not to do that again where they could see because their emotional egos couldn't deal with it. And before you assume I was a "tank", I will say I was a varsity football cheerleader for 2 years...so yes, I was shaped very much like a girl.

Except for the limited few years between maybe ages 15 and 30....I don't find that men are necessarily even the stronger sex physically in our society.

Your gross stereotypes are kind of insulting. Some men are stronger and some men aren't....basic fact of life. There isn't a tiny bit of weakness in the Proverbs 31 woman...either physically, emotionally, or spiritually.

 

[iambren]

"Eve was deceived , but Adam was duped (by Eve, to sin) . That's how it all went down in the beginning."


Maybe that is what the Bible means when it says she is the weaker vessel. The power of deception ran as Satan--Eve--Adam which places women in a lower level of trust over things of life.

 

[blackribbon]

I think the Bible says to treat her AS the weaker vessel (not that she IS the weaker vessel) ...in other words, treat her like an object of great value.

Men treat their cars often this way even though there is nothing weak or delicate about a car.