Guns

[GreenMunchkin]

I know what you're essentially saying here, but his point is that you're hating something becuz it's the weapon involved in the crisis or trauma - when it could of been ANY weapon that someone could be tragically using to take their life.

Nobody has to like guns, but there are many things that can be used as a weapon to kill people or things that can be dangerous & kill people - cars, alcohol, drugs/prescription, knives, forks, heights, suffocation, rope/hanging, toxic plants, airplanes, hammers, drills, saws, wrenches, fire, bats, belts, bookends, pit bulls, trains, glass, gluttony/obesity....

Hi But only guns - and to some extent knives - were created for the sole purpose of killing. Humans can turn anything into something killy, but those other items have primary purposes that don't involve killing. Guns don't. They're all about the killing.

 

[GQ Chris]

Criminals will always get their hands on guns, gun control laws only disarm law abiding citizens.

What is so bad about Killing if it prevents an innocent life from being taken, when stopping a potential Rapist/Murderer? The Bible is not against killing, it is against Murder.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Hi But only guns - and to some extent knives - were created for the sole purpose of killing. Humans can turn anything into something killy, but those other items have primary purposes that don't involve killing. Guns don't. They're all about the killing.

Yes. As I said, they don;t make good lamps, or lighters or even door stops.

 

[USMC4Life]

Don't forget, Guns are only for shooting people.

Who would use them to hunt? No one, that's just a crazy idea that people use them to hunt!

 

[Nadiine]

Hi But only guns - and to some extent knives - were created for the sole purpose of killing. Humans can turn anything into something killy, but those other items have primary purposes that don't involve killing. Guns don't. They're all about the killing.

Yes, but sometimes mercy killing is very important --
my brother in law had to kill a potbellied pig was ferrociously attacked by a pit bull.
I know the whole gruesome story - he even called the vet & vet advised him to put the pig down at that point.
He did - mercifully.

You cannot forget that guns ALSO bring mercy and protect - and give people a sense a safety by being protected. I lived in a state of fear when I had no gun at my house while my husband was out of the country for a week or out of state for 2 weeks... one time I he had to leave for close to 1 month on business.

I assure you, I was afraid every single night until I got a gun. They do alot more than just "kill people" - they save people and animals too.

People have had to shoot coyote's attacking their pets in their yards too. I live where coytee's are all over as soon as dusk hits. I've lost several cats & ducks to them already even being careful.
Not that I won't lose anything more just becuz I own a gun, but if I'm in a predicament with them, I can do something.

People are simply making rash judgments on people with guns - ask how many of us gun owners go out "killing people"?
NONE.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Mornin'

Those are not actually very good as weapons... though I suppose you could use them as vectors in bio warfare.

 

[The Princess Bride]

Hi But only guns - and to some extent knives - were created for the sole purpose of killing. Humans can turn anything into something killy, but those other items have primary purposes that don't involve killing. Guns don't. They're all about the killing.

I suppose I could always train my five yr old brother to be an ankle biter

 

[Nadiine]

Don't forget, Guns are only for shooting people.

Who would use them to hunt? No one, that's just a crazy idea that people use them to hunt!

Well I have to admit that I don't like people hunting with them at all either. lol
But if people do hunt and actually use that as food for their families then I can understand it better, I just dislike it.
No more than I dislike any other animal having to be destroyed for food tho.

I just wish we didn't need things to die for our food.

 

[Nadiine]

I suppose I could always train my five yr old brother to be an ankle biter

why bite when you can kick? heh

 

[Nadiine]

Hi But only guns - and to some extent knives - were created for the sole purpose of killing. Humans can turn anything into something killy, but those other items have primary purposes that don't involve killing. Guns don't. They're all about the killing.

(I think to YOU they're all about that but not to other people).
You're welcome to feel that way, but I don't see as how you feel your opinion should be put onto others as if they have to feel the same way becuz guns do alot more than just "kill".

People do sharpshooting competitions, people do skeetshooting, they hunt, they collect them as collectors pieces (lots of historical aspects to guns), the military uses them for OUR protection to stop people who would harm and usurp our liberties, people use them for recreation at gun ranges and some just keep them on hand for personal protection in case they need it.

So no, I disagree, they aren't ONLY for killing purposes at all. AND, what's so bad about having a gun to protect your life?
There are lots of stories like the one linked here - for this purpose alone I believe guns are helpful - esp. since ANY weapon can kill and practically any object can be used in a bad way by people with evil intent.

In this incident, the same gun is used by a bad person - and a good person to save life.
Proving that it isn't the gun, it's the person behind it.

Sept. 5, 08

The 34-year-old mother of two grabbed a shotgun that had been pointed at her face early Wednesday, starting a struggle that ended with one intruder killed with his own weapon and another in the hospital.
"I wasn't going to let them get to my babies," she said, recalling the moment when she pushed up the muzzle of the shotgun, pointing it away from her children's rooms.

Although the intruders told her to keep quiet, she screamed for her husband. She told her 12-year-old son, who was awakened by the sound of the shattering glass front door, to get his 5-year-old sister and hide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417122,00.html

 

[The Princess Bride]

why bite when you can kick? heh

But it is soooo much more funny to imagine a 5 yr old latched on for dear life to the ankle of some intruder!

 

[Nadiine]

But it is soooo much more funny to imagine a 5 yr old latched on for dear life to the ankle of some intruder!

too true!! LOL

vicious kids

 

[Zecryphon]

Actually, it's not the gun that kills the other person. It's the bullet. How many people have died from being hit with a gun? How many people when looking to buy a gun care about the parts used to make up the gun? Not too many. I could see an enthusiast or an actual gunsmith caring about such things, but they're not the typical everyday gun buyer. The typical gun buyer cares about the caliber of the bullet and how many fps it travels. The bullet is what should be outlawed and in some cases they have tried. Remember Black Talons? They They were gone for a while, but are now back under another name and are now dark blue instead of black, so they're not so menacing.

 

[Rhamiel]

I do not own a gun, neither do my parents, but we are very much for the right of the people to own a gun. Both of my parents were military and they love the USA, but they know it could be possible for the government to try to take away peoples rights, and if need be the people need to be able to defend itself from the Government if all legal means fall through

 

[mont974x4]

Firearms are simply one of many tools I own that are used to provide for my friends and family.

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

Actually, it's not the gun that kills the other person. It's the bullet. How many people have died from being hit with a gun? How many people when looking to buy a gun care about the parts used to make up the gun? Not too many. I could see an enthusiast or an actual gunsmith caring about such things, but they're not the typical everyday gun buyer. The typical gun buyer cares about the caliber of the bullet and how many fps it travels. The bullet is what should be outlawed and in some cases they have tried. Remember Black Talons? They They were gone for a while, but are now back under another name and are now dark blue instead of black, so they're not so menacing.

Hmm. Anybody remember Pat Paulsen? In his campaigns for president, one of his slogans was "Guns don't kill people; bullets kill people."

 

[The Princess Bride]

Hmm. Anybody remember Pat Paulsen? In his campaigns for president, one of his slogans was "Guns don't kill people; bullets kill people."

I know what MY slogan would be if I were to run for President: "Guns don't kill people....Drivers with cell phones do."

 

[desmalia]

I know what MY slogan would be if I were to run for President: "Guns don't kill people....Drivers with cell phones do."

 

[GQ Chris]

texting and driving is the New killer.

 

[Zecryphon]

texting and driving is the New killer.

This is really true. That horrible train accident that happened last week. One of the factors being investigated is that one of the engineers was sending a text message right before the crash. Now we don't know enough to say that that is the reason the crash happened. As my wife pointed out he may have known that he was going to die due to the impending crash and was texting his loved ones to say "goodbye". But the possibility does exist that he was texting when he should have been paying attention to the signals around him that would have let him know to change tracks or that there was a train on his same track a few miles away.

*I do not intend to derail this thread into a discussion about that train accident. I was just using that as an example