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Then why was he legally found guilty?
We will se if what was done in that court was in fact legal. But Biden and the demo's want to get that mile or two out of it. Seems you like it too.
Do you honestly believe that bribery is a legitimate legal expense or do you fear blaspheming the "church of Trump" if you allow yourself to believe he is a flawed human being?
It is legal bribery.....pay me or else. Paying people to not disclose something about you is bribery. That is legal so they cannot continue on to blackmail
 
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We will se if what was done in that court was in fact legal. But Biden and the demo's want to get that mile or two out of it. Seems you like it too.
I think we have already seen that it was legal as the judge didn't overturn the verdict on even one of the 34 charges.
It is legal bribery.....pay me or else. Paying people to not disclose something about you is bribery. That is legal so they cannot continue on to blackmail
Please show me a precedent that confirms that bribery is legal. Paying hush money to someone who commits a crime for you is not legal grounds for the bribe. It's only right that the bagman, when he admits to his crime discloses who he committed the crime for. You can witness me committing murder and I can pay you to sign a nondisclosure agreement, however the crime has been committed.
 
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Nobody should have to tell anyone. It has been in the news.
Yes, Trump’s lawyers tried this. It failed. Trump was convicted.


LOL, You want to play games.

No. I want you to stop dragging my parents’ Lord and Savior’s good name through the mud by spinning this stupidity by someone labeled a Christian.
 
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It was payment for a non disclosure agreement. A legal expense. It cost money to have someone sign a non disclosure. That was what the payment was for...
A payment for a non-disclosure agreement is a legal settlement. It is not a legal expense. Legal expenses specifically refer to reimbursements for money that a lawyer spends in pursuit of work for their client. Things like paying expert witnesses, any fees associated with retrieving documents, travel expenses, etc.

Just because something is a legal matter and an expense does not make it a "legal expense". If Cohen had to travel to meet Daniels' attorneys, that would be a legal expense. If he paid a private investigator to verify her claims, that would be too. But fronting the money for the settlement is not.

And, actually, the car analogy is pretty apt. When you buy a car, you sign a legal contract. You agree to hand over a sum of money in exchange for a consideration (the car, in this case). An NDA is another form of legal contract - you agree to hand over a sum of money in exchange for a consideration (the other party's silence).

Importantly, you'll note that Trump's lawyers never made this argument during the trial. Rather, they focused on trying to show that Trump had no knowledge of the matter and was just signing off on Cohen's invoices. So you're either completely off-base, or Trump's $50 million in lawyers are totally incompetent.
 
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Nobody should have to tell anyone. It has been in the news.

LOL, You want to play games.
It feels like you're just playing the game of "I can't hear you" where you reject anything anyone tells you here as being false, without providing reasons as to why.

It might be easier for you to make one, longer post, explaining why you believe the information people are providing you is wrong, if you genuinely have evidence of why they're wrong.
 
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Has Trump been taken off of any ballots in states because of these convictions?
 
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It's very different.

That wasn't a criminal trial, for starters.

-- A2SG, plus which, Trump wasn't on trial there....
And the suit was brought by several Republicans in the Centennial State.
 
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Sigh......That MISDEMEANOR was expired....they resurrected it to turn it into a FELONY violation of election law. A common non disclosure agreement, was made an election violation......
Per NY law, the statute of limitations does not attach when defendant leaves the State, but suspends.
 
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And that "legally" has nothing to do with whether Trump did. See all this will come out in appeal.

In general “new facts” don’t come out in appeals, but the appeals court reviews the conduct of the trial and the procedures done by the attorneys involved in the prosecution (and less) the defense.
But all the lies and disinformation will go on until then. Just like the Colorado case, just like hamas vs Israel. Any divisive Issue marxists love the division and mistrust...
You keep bringing up the Colorado case as if it has some bearing on this, it doesn’t


Bragg got the guy he campaigned he would get...
Politician keeps campaign promise?
That’s a “complaint”?
 
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I meant that transgender people are everywhere.
 
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Excuse me. Was Stormy Daniels representing Trump in court or something? That is not a legal expense.


What Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to.
“First base”
”Second base”
Who’s on first
 
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I meant that transgender people are everywhere.
They are in every state but I doubt that they surround you. Have you actually spoken t one? Otherwise, do you just get information from social media posters that think that transgender people signal the apocalypse?
 
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This verdict will no doubt boost Trumps campaign!
It will no doubt bring together those who worship him or believe that he is their messiah. However as non-Conservative as I am, in the past, I have seen many conservatives not only show common sense but they usually believe in the rule of law. It's only the extremists who believe that Donald Trump is incapable of making a mistake or committing a crime. My feeling is that the salt of the Earth Conservatives will be open to seeing reason.
 
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I don't blame the jury, it was well predicted by Scholars that the jury was convinced a crime was there when there was none. This just one of the problems. I hope this gets out of new york to the supreme court.
What scholars?
 
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They are in every state but I doubt that they surround you. Have you actually spoken t one? Otherwise, do you just get information from social media posters that think that transgender people signal the apocalypse?
Does talking to myself count?

Yes, I do speak to transgender people on occasion, and there are more of us then you think.

 
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Does talking to myself count?

Yes, I do speak to transgender people on occasion, and there are more of us then you think.

Since you have so many trans friends, you must have gleaned that they are also human beings by now correct? Then why treat them like they are less deserving of happiness or at least contentment?

Evil laugh noted because it is pretty evil to judge a person for being who they want to be.
 
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I think you're barking up the wrong tree here - as I recall from previous postings, Foamhead is transgender and was making a joke.
 
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