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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

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Free of allusions seems that is not a easy task.

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bottom right corner appears like flat brick but I don’t know.
 
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I don't know if I'm the best person to answer because I'm a relatively new Christian but...

Daily we work trying to be the best person we can: loving God and loving your neighbor.
It's impossible to be perfect though, but we need to be the best we can.
And when we fail... repent, ask for forgiveness in the name of Jesus, His Son whom sacrificed himself to pay for our sins, so we can be saved. Then get up and always continue trying to be the best we can.
And also spread the good news of Jesus Christ and God's Word.

Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that?

If we believe in God and Jesus, He will always be with us working and helping us in our life, decisions, etc.
We also need to look forward on doing right things, although we are not saved by our works, only by His grace and faith on His Son.
 
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A true Christian doesn't balk at God's leading. If a godly person reminds us of God's word and instruction we are grateful and have the God given desire to repent. We love Him and follow Him.

We love Him because He first loved us:

1 John 4 NIV
19 We love because he first loved us. 20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 21 And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.

Romans 8:27-28
27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.
28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who i have been called according to his purpose.

John 14:15-21
15 “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
 
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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you
I try to be more like Jesus, I am not doing a very good job of it.
 
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For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you

One of the fundamental teaching of the Catholic Church is that we have free will and we must freely cooperate with God's grace; so our sanctification is the result of God's grace and our free cooperation.
Our cooperation consists in meeting the Lord in prayer, meditating His teachings (both the teachings in the Bible and the teachings He gives us through our conscience) , always trying to keep His commandments, to love our neighbour and to do His will.
 
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For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. ... What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

To praise and honor the Lord of Heaven and Earth; our Creator and Sustainer; the God who hears and answers prayers; the Eternal One ...

Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that?

God does all the work; all the heavy lifting. The individual Christian is unable to save him or herself ...
 
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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you
Great question. The Holy Spirit guilds us in all truth . Without Him, we are not a Christian as the Holy Spirit is the power that changes us into a "new creation". Only when we recieve His Spirit can we have a genuine relationship with our Creator, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, God in the flesh. We walk with Him daily, presenting our supplications , giving thanks and simply engaging Him in our daily lives. He is our Father. His Holy Spirit causes us to truly repent from sin, as long as we do not quench Him. True repentance is " changing one`s mind", from sin. Walking in His Spirit daily brings us into a more loving nature towards others. Loving Him unconditionally is the door to true bliss. Hope this helps!
 
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Good answers, I'd like to know more about the Holy Spirit. It's not really explained what it is or how it is experienced. How do you know when the Holy Spirit is guiding you?
Love. Love Jesus Christ of Nazareth more than anyone or anything. Then you will receive His Holy Spirit.
 
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Good answers, I'd like to know more about the Holy Spirit. It's not really explained what it is or how it is experienced. How do you know when the Holy Spirit is guiding you?
That is another good question.

Christians operate out of a gratitude type Love since we have been given everything up from there is no more to get, except actually living in heaven with God. We have a birth right (one of the things we get being born again), which is like a deed to a home in heaven, so even though we do not actually live-in heaven right now, it is our retirement home paid up.

The indwelling Holy Spirit is our down payment and assurance God will fulfill all His promises to us individually. The indwelling Spirit in me is not meant to be any assurance for you, but you can have the Spirit in you for your assurance. The way I am assured the Spirit dwells within me, is not to become your assurance of the Spirit. There is a fully logical reason for this to really help you, but that takes time to explain and goes back to man’s earthly objective.

We all start out without the indwelling Holy Spirit, so with only our own ability we cannot keep from eventually sinning, but not ever sinning is not our earthly objective.

Everything needs to start with the objective.

If there is this eternal intelligence it would be at the epitome of the best it could be and not in the process of improvement. It would be the ultimate bad or good but not somewhere in-between. Why be bad when He can be good just as easily? The ultimate “good” would be what is called Godly type Love (to be defined later) and is a totally unselfish type Love. Since this God would be able to direct our thinking, why would He have us think of him as being totally bad, when He could make us think bad was good and thus, He would be worthy of praise? If God were bad and we praise a “Good God” than we are not praising Him.



The difference and issues begin with misunderstanding of the objective. Most Christians like: Man’s objective is to bring glory to God” and have scripture references to support that objective, but a person can take any commandment of God given in scripture and have Biblical support for call that command: “Man’s objective”. We are certainly commanded to do that command, so why is it not man’s objective?

There are the two superior commands which all other commands are subordinate to and combined would be like: “Love God (and secondly others) with all your heart, soul, mind, and energy.” That appears to be man’s “Mission Statement”. The huge problem with fulfilling that “Mission Statement” is the fact that the “Love” needed would have to be huge, way beyond anything man could develop, learn, deserve, earn, pay back, be instinctive to man, or somehow just be forced upon humans.

Thus the reason you have free will, is because it is required for you to complete your earthly objective.

This messed up world which includes satan roaming around is not here for your pleasure, but to help you become like God Himself in that you have the unique, unbelievable Godly type Love (God himself is Love).

God has created beings to shower them with the greatest gifts possible, the greatest gift being having a Love like His.

If there is this Creator of the universe out there, His “creations” could not really “do” anything for Him, so this Creator would have to be seen as a Giver (Unselfish Lover) and not trying to “get” something from His creation.

Why would God have a totally unselfish type of Love, since He personally would not get anything out of it? If God’s “Love” is some kind of knee jerk reaction, then it is really meaningless (something like; gravity which is nice to have, but everyone automatically has it). God Loves us in spite of what we have done, who we are or what we will do, so it has to be by His choice.


God would create the right universe for the sake of the individuals that will accept His gift (the most powerful force [Love] in all universes, since that force [Love] compels even God to do all He does) and thus we become like He is (the greatest gift He could give).

What keeps the all-powerful Creator from just giving whatever He wants to his creation, eliminating the need for free will and this earthly time.

There are just somethings even an all-powerful Creator cannot do (there are things impossible to do), like create another Christ, since Christ has always existed, the big impossibility for us is; create humans with instinctive Godly type Love, since Godly type Love is not instinctive. Godly type love has to be the result of a free will decision by the being, to make it the person’s Love apart from God. In other words: If the Love was in a human from the human’s creation it would be a robotic type love and not a Godly type Love. Also, if God “forces” this Love on a person (Kind a like a shotgun wedding) it would not be “loving” on God’s part and the love forced on the person would not be Godly type Love. This Love has to be the result of a free will moral choice with real alternatives (for humans those alternatives include the perceived pleasures of sin for a season.)

This Love is way beyond anything humans could develop, obtain, learn, earn, pay back or ever deserve, so it must be the result of a gift that is accepted or rejected (a free will choice).

This “Love” is much more than just an emotional feeling; it is God Himself (God is Love). If you see this Love you see God.

All mature adults do stuff that hurts others (this is called sin) these transgressions weigh on them, burden them, to the point the individual seeks relief (at least early on before they allow their hearts to be hardened). Lots of “alternatives” can be tried for relief, but the only true relief comes from God with forgiveness (this forgiveness is pure charity [grace/mercy/Love]). The correct humble acceptance of this Forgiveness (Charity) automatically will result in Love (we are taught by Jesus and our own experience “…he that is forgiven much will Love much…”). Sin is thus made hugely significant, so there will be an unbelievable huge debt to be forgiven of and thus result in an unbelievable huge “Love” (Godly type Love).

After we initially obtain Godly type Love we no longer need to sin and need to grow that Love through use, so the Spirit is needed and the Spirit is Love like God is Love.
 
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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you
My role is to obey God and grow as a person and to do good for others when God gives me the opportunity.
God does what he wants.
How much my obedience plays into my overall sanctification is known by God.
 
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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you
A good answer is from the Bible. “He has shown you, O man, what is good and what the Lord requires of you. But to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.“ This summarizes the Christian way which, as you can see, is a real relationship with God not merely a self-improvement method.

Walking with God requires a certain of personal holiness. This is also why it must start with seeing the wrong we have done, repenting of it and receiving cleansing.

Then as one walks with Him, He shows one the corrections that must be made. These are corrections both in thinking and behavior. There is a great deal more but that will suffice.
 
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I'm from the Buddhist tradition. Our tradition in less about belief and more about ethical and meditative practices that purify the mind of mental poisons and thereby lead to the gradual and/or sudden insight that frees us from illusions and from the rounds of suffering and rebirth (Samsara).

****I only mention that to frame my question.....

For Christians.. What is it that you 'work at' on a daily basis. Is it a matter of the Lord working in you to sanctify you, or do you have a hand in that? What's YOUR role in your Christian journey?

Thank you

I see my role as a Christain to daily abide in Christ. To spend time in prayer, and seeking God. As an example bible reading helps to focus my mind on the love of God for me and others. Any outreach to others comes as a result of the focus on God.
 
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Any outreach to others comes as a result of the focus on God.
I.O.W., optional extra if you feel like at the moment and is painless and costs you nothing but offers pleasure this time. Glad the apostles and early disciples didn’t have that view.
 
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I.O.W., optional extra if you feel like at the moment and is painless and costs you nothing but offers pleasure this time. Glad the apostles and early disciples didn’t have that view.

I am not saying outreach is an optional extra. It is a part of a balanced view of God. The Bible tells us "pray that you enter no into temptation for the spirit is willing and the flesh weak". Prayer is the gateway to gaining the strength to have an outreach focus. If we are not focused on prayer we will not be focused on outreach.
 
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I am not saying outreach is an optional extra. It is a part of a balanced view of God. The Bible tells us "pray that you enter no into temptation for the spirit is willing and the flesh weak". Prayer is the gateway to gaining the strength to have an outreach focus. If we are not focused on prayer we will not be focused on outreach.
The problem is making obeying Him a RESULT of something else as if obeying Him as a fruit and NOT an outright choice. In my experience it’s an outright choice more often than not.

The more we read His word, the clearer we hear, true. Obedience is both a fruit and a choice. IOW, sometimes you want to so it’s easy and sometimes you don’t want to and it’s a choice pure.

The reason this is important is we cannot give ourselves the excuse that we need to first pray a lot or read the Bible a lot and AFTER we’ve mastered that THEN we will automatically WANT to obey Him easily and painlessly.
 
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The problem is making obeying Him a RESULT of something else as if obeying Him as a fruit and NOT an outright choice. In my experience it’s an outright choice more often than not.

The more we read His word, the clearer we hear, true. Obedience is both a fruit and a choice. IOW, sometimes you want to so it’s easy and sometimes you don’t want to and it’s a choice pure.

The reason this is important is we cannot give ourselves the excuse that we need to first pray a lot or read the Bible a lot and AFTER we’ve mastered that THEN we will automatically WANT to obey Him easily and painlessly.

It is true that it is a choice. But often the choice is not easy, the bible says we:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Oftentimes, when I feel to witness there is a strong spiritual resistance. It can be extremely uncomfortable. That said I have found many ways to outreach. Over the period of the last few years, I have reached many thousands with the gospel. I continue to outreach the best I can. For me, it is just I know I need to be doing it so I do it.

Could I be more obedient, surely yes.
 
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It is true that it is a choice. But often the choice is not easy, the bible says we:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Oftentimes, when I feel to witness there is a strong spiritual resistance. It can be extremely uncomfortable. That said I have found many ways to outreach. Over the period of the last few years, I have reached many thousands with the gospel. I continue to outreach the best I can. For me, it is just I know I need to be doing it so I do it.

Could I be more obedient, surely yes.
Impressive!! That is how it should be. I try to see sharing the faith as loving the other person, not trying to gain a member. Looking forward to meeting you some day, likely in our Father's house.
 
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