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There's nothing wrong with enjoying a comfortable life.. there's something wrong with thinking you deserve it more than someone else, there's something wrong with exploiting others to get it, and there's something wrong with having huge blessings and resenting sharing it with others who haven't been as fortunate.
 
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there's something wrong with thinking you deserve it more than someone else, there's something wrong with exploiting others to get it, and there's something wrong with having huge blessings and resenting sharing it with others who haven't been as fortunate.

ah, I see
 
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I agree that there's something wrong with exploiting others to get it, there's something wrong with having huge blessings and resenting sharing it with others who haven't been as fortunate.

But I think that sometimes there are people who do deserve it more than others. Possibly people who truely work for it or have a larger family to support.
 
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Money is good, it's the love of money over all other things that is bad.

Money can do good things like provide medical care to your family, or allow your kids to attend good colleges, but when it becomes your overriding priority, when you decide that it's more important than your family, than people, then that love for money becomes a negative thing.
 
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reina23 said:
I agree that there's something wrong with exploiting others to get it, there's something wrong with having huge blessings and resenting sharing it with others who haven't been as fortunate.

But I think that sometimes there are people who do deserve it more than others. Possibly people who truely work for it or have a larger family to support.

I find it very rare that the people who work the hardest have more even taking into account all forms of work (intellectual, manual labor etc..) I don't think having a larger family makes you deserve a larger income... they might need to bring in more money but that's needing it, not deserving it. :)
 
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reina23 said:
What exactly is wrong about enjoying money, and the comfort it brings?
Having a lot of money can be a good thing.
Well,Jesus said that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.So, what does that mean?I think it means that if you wouldn't trade your wealth for salvation,you will not enter heaven.The best example is the story from which I took the quote.The rich young ruler had done the commandments all his life,but when told he must sell all that he had and give to the poor.It was more than he was willing to do,so,he went away sorrowful.Frankly,I'm not shure I could do it.I haven't done it yet.The question arises.What do I really have faith in?Money or God?I think about this a lot.Right now I've decided that if my whole focus is not on money,then I'm probably ok.Since I have become a Christian,it has in fact been easier to take steps of faith concerning money.But ,I'm still fairly comfortable.I'm not 100% shure I can just let it go.I'd say that this is likely the case with most Americans.We don't know what real poverty is in this country,and we certainly don't embrace it.If I give all I have to the poor,will they be better off?No,probably not.Will I be better off?Well,if I did it for their sake,the answer is yes.If I do it for my sake,the answer is probably no,and I would shurely regret doing it.
 
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reina23 said:
What exactly is wrong about enjoying money, and the comfort it brings?
Having a lot of money can be a good thing.

Money itself is fine. It's the LOVE of money that messes folks up. When it becomes #1 in your life and you are consumed by it and you measure everything by it, then it isn't good. Money doesn't save you, money doesn't love you, money is just money. It's a means in which to get things here on earth, but it does nothing for the spiritual welfare of yourself or others.
 
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