Great Scientsts of the Past

[AV1611VET]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

Ok. Great Scientists of the Past: Galileo, for one.

 

[PloverWing]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

Do you have examples? I don't think I know what kinds of ambiguous/difficult statements by scientists you're referring to.

 

[HolyWalk]

I think its good to realise that science and Christianity can and should embrace one another. Christianity is the elder of the two I believe and science may be too young to understand the marvels of God and the universe.

I would be interested in reading some of the statements though @AV1611VET.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think its good to realise that science and Christianity can and should embrace one another.

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

Christianity is the elder of the two I believe and science may be too young to understand the marvels of God and the universe.

Science's problem isn't his age, it's his vision.

Science is myopic.

I would be interested in reading some of the statements though @AV1611VET.

Welcome to CF!

 

[HolyWalk]

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

I think they could if they wanted to, however they would constantly disagree about fundamental concepts.

Science is myopic.

It certain can be I agree.

Welcome to CF!

Thank you; this is an excellent community.

 

[AV1611VET]

Thank you; this is an excellent community.

I have to admit, I'm impressed with their knowledge of science.

 

[HolyWalk]

I have to admit, I'm impressed with their knowledge of science.

Thank you.
When I was at school, my favourite subject was science. I do find science interesting, however I don't always agree.

 

[John 1720]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

To name a few gleaned rather quickly:
Man of Science, Man of God: Michael Faraday | The Institute for Creation Research

There are two books laid before us to study, to prevent our falling into error: first, the volume of the Scriptures, which reveal the will of God; then the volume of the Creatures, which express His power.

Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors.

O God, I am thinking Thy thoughts after Thee.

The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator.

-Finite man cannot begin to comprehend an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent, and infinite God … I find it best to accept God through faith, as an intelligent will, perfect in goodness and wisdom, revealing Himself through His creation.

The conduct of God, who disposes all things kindly, is to put religion into the mind by reason, and into the heart by grace. But to will to put it into the mind and heart by force and threats is not to put religion there, but terror.

When with bold telescopes I survey the old and newly discovered stars and planets when with excellent microscopes I discern the unimitable subtility of nature’s curious workmanship; and when, in a word, by the help of anatomical knives, and the light of chemical furnaces, I study the book of nature I find myself oftentimes reduced to exclaim with the Psalmist, How manifold are Thy works, O Lord! In wisdom hast Thou made them all!

It is His work,” he reminded them; “and He alone carried me thus far through all my trials and enabled me to triumph over the obstacles, physical and moral, which opposed me. ‘Not unto us, not unto us, by to Thy name, O Lord, be all the praise.’

 

[Tangible]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Well, for starters, no one in the world had ever had a Baptist-like salvation experience, where they asked Jesus into their heart or prayed the sinner's prayer, etc., until the mid-1800s or thereabouts. So ...

I mean, I've even heard Baptists say that Martin Luther wasn't a "real" Christian.

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

It's not their fault if someone can't understand what they wrote.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

So I'm trying to figure out why you believe it's your job to judge whether or not they were "real" Christians. And who is the "we" that calls them secret agent Christians? I've never in my life heard that term before reading your post.

 

[lesliedellow]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

“That God existed before there were human beings on Earth, that He holds the entire world, believers and non-believers, in His omnipotent hand for eternity, and that He will remain enthroned on a level inaccessible to human comprehension long after the Earth and everything that is on it has gone to ruins; those who profess this faith and who, inspired by it, in veneration and complete confidence, feel secure from the dangers of life under protection of the Almighty, only those may number themselves among the truly religious.”

“Farsighted theologians are now working to mine the eternal metal from the teachings of Jesus and to forge it for all time.”

Is that explicit enough for you? Both quotes are those of physicist Max Planck.

For what it is worth, he was Lutheran.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Why is it that we can read and read and read what scientists of the past had to say about God and/or the Bible, and yet ... for all their chatter ... can't tell if they're saying they have been born again through faith in Jesus Christ or not?

Even if you can find a scientist who remarks on God or the Bible, his remarks were so full of "Huh? What did he just say?" that it's hard to tell what he just said.

And as to what denomination he/she belonged to? forget it.

We call them secret agent Christians ... assuming they were born again, that is.

What difference does it make?

I am a computer scientist. I believe God created logic. Computers fail because humans are not as reasonable as God

 

[Paul Yohannan]

I mean, I've even heard Baptists say that Martin Luther wasn't a "real" Christian.

WHAT?

Who said that?

Where?

My friend @Der Alter is a Baptist minister, and extremely pious. He and I have a deep respect for each other's faith.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Ok. Great Scientists of the Past: Galileo, for one.

Some of favorite contempory scientists (of the past 1500 years):

Al-Kwarizmi
Averroes
Avicenna
Galileo
Copernicus
Newton
Da Vinci
Bernoulli
Currie
Paschal
Rumkhoff
Bell
Siemens
Tesla
Einstein
Heisenberg
Werner Von Braun
Teller
Von Neumann
Turing
Don Knuth
Goddard
Hawking
Rhutan
Moore

And my very favorites:
Dennis M. Ritchie, memory eternal
Ken Thompson
Rob Pike

Inventors of UNIX

 

[Tangible]

WHAT?

Who said that?

Where?

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. Growing up Baptist it was always assumed that most other kinds of Christians - Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, etc. - were probably not true Christians and should be witnessed to so that they would accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

My friend @Der Alter is a Baptist minister, and extremely pious. He and I have a deep respect for each other's faith.

I would say he is a rose among the briars.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. Growing up Baptist it was always assumed that most other kinds of Christians - Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, etc. - were probably not true Christians and should be witnessed to so that they would accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

I would say he is a rose among the briars.

I thought the SBC got on well with the PCA, the OPC and the CCCC?

 

[Tangible]

I thought the SBC got on well with the PCA, the OPC and the CCCC?

Oh, officially I'm sure that's the case. Down at the level of the hoi-polloi though, I think it's quite a different story.

 

[ViaCrucis]

or what it is worth, he was Lutheran.

Ah, well, there you go. Obviously a fake Christian. I bet he didn't even believe that Jesus spoke a mid-18th century modification of 17th century English.

-CryptoLutheran