Grace: Two Aspects

[SavedByGrace3]

Grace + anything = no Grace at all. Asaph

 

[Asaph]

Grace + anything = no Grace at all. Asaph

I wish I could take credit for that Dids, but I can't. I think it comes from an old English story of a Queen forgiving a servant who intended to kill her.

Asaph

 

[brotherjim]

"Grace . . . be multiplied onto you."

". . . Grace for Grace."

". . . the manifold Grace of God."

Any Gift--tangible or spiritual or whatever--which God gives us is a Grace (us deserving only hell at any time), and Mercy is His reason for giving them.

 

[brotherjim]

Once we have come into Grace, we would actually have to exert ourselves to not confess Christ.

Confessing Him is our reality, it is right as rain.

Asaph

So then, Asaph, if I'm understanding what you're implying, a confession of salvation ("if you believe . . . and confess w/ your mouth . . .") is a litmus test, it being an inevitable consequence, a natural reaction, if the Grace of salvation was indeed received?

 

[Asaph]

So then, Asaph, if I'm understanding what you're implying, a confession of salvation ("if you believe . . . and confess w/ your mouth . . .") is a litmus test, it being an inevitable consequence, a natural reaction, if the Grace of salvation was indeed received?

No, I never said it was a litmus test for anything. But I think I can detect from your phrasing that you probably believe that you picked God, and I know that I didn't pick God, He picked me. So from experience, I don't want to go down this road with you. Not that I can't robustly defend my position, but that there has already been enough contention on the forum lately and I just want to rest for a while.

I will if you really feel we must though. Your call.

Asaph

 

[foursquareman]

Grace + anything = no Grace at all. Asaph

But then wouldn't that mean that we can stop grace working if we try anything?

Wouldn't it be:

Grace + anything = Grace

 

[brotherjim]

No, I never said it was a litmus test for anything. But I think I can detect from your phrasing that you probably believe that you picked God, and I know that I didn't pick God, He picked me. So from experience, I don't want to go down this road with you. Not that I can't robustly defend my position, but that there has already been enough contention on the forum lately and I just want to rest for a while.

I will if you really feel we must though. Your call.

Asaph

Dear Asaph,

I'm afraid you completely misunderstood.

And I would agree, there is no road the Lord would will be traveled here.

Blessings, Peace, jim

 

[Asaph]

Dear Asaph,

I'm afraid you completely misunderstood.

And I would agree, there is no road the Lord would will be traveled here.

Blessings, Peace, jim

BJ, thanks for your understanding. I do think there will come a time when we can discuss these things in love and peace. I look forward to that.

Be greatly blessed today,
Asaph

 

[Johnny Be Good]

Grace is cool.