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Government and morality

OldWiseGuy

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I think it is more stupid to assume what the Government does contrary to one's preferences is immoral.

I think it's more about what the government doesn't do. To use my dirty lake example once more, they believe that piddling around in the watershed with various programs and rules will improve water quality. Meanwhile the lake gets worse and worse. It doesn't occur to them to clean up the lake directly. If you want to go south you don't march off to the north.
 
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I think it's more about what the government doesn't do. To use my dirty lake example once more, they believe that piddling around in the watershed with various programs and rules will improve water quality. Meanwhile the lake gets worse and worse. It doesn't occur to them to clean up the lake directly. If you want to go south you don't march off to the north.
I think the old joke that politicians are like bananas, they start out green & straight and end up yellow & bent, has some truth to it but a truth that is imposed by political expediency and the necessity for compromise to pass legislation when there are competing ideologies.
 
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Paul Johnson: “Both in Virginia and in New England to the north, the colonists were determined, God-fearing men, often in search of a religious toleration denied them at home, who brought their families and were anxious to farm and establish permanent settlements.

President George Washington: “The foundations of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality.”

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”

John Adams: “Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand.”

Supreme Court Chief Justice Earl Warren: “I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it.”

The Constitution is the foundation of our republic. And the Ten Commandments were, in many ways, the foundation of the Constitution. Religion and morality are firmly rooted in divine law.
 
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