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Struggles by Non-Christians
Gospel of John + Clash of religions
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<blockquote data-quote="crossnote" data-source="post: 70093442" data-attributes="member: 262631"><p>One of my favorite non John proofs is...</p><p></p><p>Who, being in the form of God,<strong> thought it not robbery to be equal with God</strong>: (Php 2:6)</p><p></p><p>If you think about it, if Jesus was not God, but thought he was, then he was deluded and not even a prophet (so even the Muslims would be wrong calling him a prophet).</p><p></p><p>Then you have from Mark...</p><p></p><p>Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? <strong>who can forgive sins but God only?</strong> And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, <strong>Thy sins be forgiven thee;</strong> or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) <strong>I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; </strong>insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion. (Mar 2:7-12)</p><p></p><p>Then...</p><p></p><p>For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, <strong>The mighty God</strong>, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.</p><p>(Isa 9:6)</p><p></p><p>and...</p><p></p><p>Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.</p><p>(Psa 45:6)</p><p>coupled with...</p><p>But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.</p><p>(Heb 1:8)</p><p></p><p>I could go on but it would be in vain if someone is bent on disproving John.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crossnote, post: 70093442, member: 262631"] One of my favorite non John proofs is... Who, being in the form of God,[B] thought it not robbery to be equal with God[/B]: (Php 2:6) If you think about it, if Jesus was not God, but thought he was, then he was deluded and not even a prophet (so even the Muslims would be wrong calling him a prophet). Then you have from Mark... Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? [B]who can forgive sins but God only?[/B] And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, [B]Thy sins be forgiven thee;[/B] or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) [B]I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; [/B]insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion. (Mar 2:7-12) Then... For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, [B]The mighty God[/B], The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (Isa 9:6) and... Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. (Psa 45:6) coupled with... But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. (Heb 1:8) I could go on but it would be in vain if someone is bent on disproving John. [/QUOTE]
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