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GOP senators unanimously vote against seeing evidence
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<blockquote data-quote="camille70" data-source="post: 74658880" data-attributes="member: 180543"><p>I've posted the following more than once, but I'll do it again since folks are arguing this should have gone through the courts. This was mentioned during today's proceedings. One thing to consider also, Trumps lawyers are in front of Chief Justice Roberts saying the dems need to go to court. Meanwhile the cases regarding McGahan and Trumps taxes are winding their way through the courts and may eventually end up in front of him where they have been arguing the opposite. I don't expect that things will go well at that time.</p><p></p><p><em>The WH has blocked witnesses and documents and are telling the </em>public<em> this needs to go through the courts. Once they are in court, the WH is arguing it's none of the courts business, and if the dems want witnesses and documents they need to impeach the president to get them, or block appointments and appropriations. Now that he's been impeached, they still aren't giving the information, claiming privilege, but if the info was actually privileged, none of the citizen groups would be able to get them via FOIA requests. The WH is feeding us lies, and for some reason few of his supporters have been able to discern this.</em></p><p></p><p><em>They are not acting in good faith. They are simply obstructing and stalling to cover up. You can bet your last dollar, if ANY of those folks had information beneficial to Trump, he'd be tweeting their quotes day and night.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><a href="https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/3/trump-administration-urges-courts-stay-out-impeach/" target="_blank">Trump administration urges courts to stay out of impeachment fight in McGahn dispute</a></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>He seemed open to Trump administration arguments that courts should stay out of the “political food fight” between Congress and the White House over McGahn’s testimony. Congress has other ways, outside of the courts, of working its will, including cutting off appropriations, stopping the confirmation of judges, even impeachment, Griffith said. “That’s what the separation of powers means,” he s<em>aid.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2020-01-03/appeals-court-wrestles-with-subpoena-for-ex-white-house-aide" target="_blank">An eye on impeachment, judges weigh House-Trump disputes</a></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="camille70, post: 74658880, member: 180543"] I've posted the following more than once, but I'll do it again since folks are arguing this should have gone through the courts. This was mentioned during today's proceedings. One thing to consider also, Trumps lawyers are in front of Chief Justice Roberts saying the dems need to go to court. Meanwhile the cases regarding McGahan and Trumps taxes are winding their way through the courts and may eventually end up in front of him where they have been arguing the opposite. I don't expect that things will go well at that time. [I]The WH has blocked witnesses and documents and are telling the [/I]public[I] this needs to go through the courts. Once they are in court, the WH is arguing it's none of the courts business, and if the dems want witnesses and documents they need to impeach the president to get them, or block appointments and appropriations. Now that he's been impeached, they still aren't giving the information, claiming privilege, but if the info was actually privileged, none of the citizen groups would be able to get them via FOIA requests. The WH is feeding us lies, and for some reason few of his supporters have been able to discern this.[/I] [I]They are not acting in good faith. They are simply obstructing and stalling to cover up. You can bet your last dollar, if ANY of those folks had information beneficial to Trump, he'd be tweeting their quotes day and night. [URL='https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/3/trump-administration-urges-courts-stay-out-impeach/']Trump administration urges courts to stay out of impeachment fight in McGahn dispute[/URL] [/I] He seemed open to Trump administration arguments that courts should stay out of the “political food fight” between Congress and the White House over McGahn’s testimony. Congress has other ways, outside of the courts, of working its will, including cutting off appropriations, stopping the confirmation of judges, even impeachment, Griffith said. “That’s what the separation of powers means,” he s[I]aid. [URL='https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2020-01-03/appeals-court-wrestles-with-subpoena-for-ex-white-house-aide']An eye on impeachment, judges weigh House-Trump disputes[/URL][/I] [/QUOTE]
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