Going to holistic/Naturopath doctor....is it wrong?

[morningstar2651]

Yawn.
I'm more interested in finding cures to things.
Less interested in quibbling over so-called evidence.
IMO - you should read more of the Bible, argue less.
All that gun shooting.

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?

They just call it medicine.

 

[Spiritlight]

I am not feeling well and conventional doctors say nothing is wrong when I know something is. So, I made an appointment with a holistic doctor because they get to the root of the problem. Only thing is he uses Reiki, Kineisiology, energy healing, etc. I was raised that some of these rituals are satanic or witchcraft. Believe me, I am reluctant to go but I am sick of having this sickness that no one seems to know. I don't want it to worsen. I pray to God to heal me soon. I cry everyday because I am in pain and desperate. What are your views on these doctors? Is it okay to go? What would you do? Your views/ experiences?

I am thinking about it myself and to be honest I have heard warnings like that too. I do wonder about what experience those that warn against it actually have. I suspect many are in the "if in doubt leve it out" camp and probably have never tried it.

It would be fairer to go to one and ask the procedures of the person to see if you get an ok feeling about it.

one thing I do know for sure is many doctors know nothing about good nutrition and things outside of pills. They kinda know what they know and some give you a puzzled look if you ask other stuff. Herbalist put me onto Spirulina to help me supplement my vegetarian diet.

Prevention is better than cure..

Its not satanic. lol i have been told all yoga is satanic and I think some guys might get a bit carried away with the satanic labels on things.

 

[Halossellar]

As I understand it, homeopathic substances have filtered out the active ingredient entirely. At least the high quality ones.

I am a person whom western medicine has completely failed. I have had great benefit from herbs. I don't know how this might fit into your definitions, but homeopathy as I defined it here is bogus. Healthy food is ideal, supplements can help

I have never agreed with you more. Of course, having never agreed with you before helped a great deal.

 

[Halossellar]

i remove myself from this thread
cheers

One of the things I find odd about "christians" is that they refuse to admit mistakes. They play the victim, try to make others look like villians, anything to avoid accepting the truth. It's sad but it's also the norm around here.

What's so hard with acting like a respectable person who made a mistake? I thought christians held themeselves to a higher standard. Not so much, huh?

 

[Ariadne_GR]

I think naturopaths can be good in terms of supplements but not for real medical issues. Go to the doctor, if you think they're failing you, get a second opinion. That's what they are educated to do. Demand to see a specialist, go to the ER. I had to when the doctors didn't know what to do with me, the specialist diagnosed me with a rare balance disorder, the doctor had never heard of it.

 

[razeontherock]

Do you know what they call alternative medicine that works?

They just call it medicine.

Actually, no, "they" don't. You see, Rx is restricted to an MD. Things that aren't, are called "alternative." (Until the FDA has their way, at which time it becomes illegal)

For the most part, pharmeceuticals have their origin in plant compounds and extracts, which may or may not be what the OP was referring to in the thread title.

 

[razeontherock]

I I do wonder about what experience those that warn against it actually have. I suspect many are in the "if in doubt leve it out" camp and probably have never tried it.

Or worse, they have no actual need, and a grand total of 0 compassion for those that do.

one thing I do know for sure is many doctors know nothing about good nutrition and things outside of pills. They kinda know what they know and some give you a puzzled look if you ask other stuff. Herbalist put me onto Spirulina to help me supplement my vegetarian diet.

Finally, a decent example in this thread! Now, what did you do to control a decent before / after picture, to determine if spirulina actually helps you? And at least as importantly, how much did you take? I tried a high quality form of it, and got precisely nothing out of it, but it's quite possible I didn't take nearly enough. I've also taken another supposed "superfood," that was just AMAZING. I should get more ...

Prevention is better than cure..

Not only that, but it is the answer FAR more than any ACA type legislation. And yet, even here, all you see is mindless opposition. *smh*

Its not satanic. lol i have been told all yoga is satanic and i think some guys might get a bit carried away with the satanic labels on things.

Stretching is actually one of the greatest preventers of injury

 

[razeontherock]

I have never agreed with you more. Of course, having never agreed with you before helped a great deal.

Kinda funny

One of the things I find odd about "christians" is that they refuse to admit mistakes. They play the victim, try to make others look like villians, anything to avoid accepting the truth. It's sad but it's also the norm around here.

What's so hard with acting like a respectable person who made a mistake? I thought christians held themeselves to a higher standard. Not so much, huh?

What mistake was he supposed to admit? The environment turned hostile; removing himself from it would be seen as wise, by most

 

[KimberlyAA]

I don't see anything blaringly wrong with Keiri and Kinesiology. But I don't know much about this energy healing thing.

Holistic medicine is a medical philosophy that views physical, mental and spiritual aspects of life as closely interconnected. God has always cared for you holistically. He cares about every area of your life.

Holistic Medicine acknowledges the need to treat the whole person. This approach is increasingly used in mainstream medical practice. Holistic medicine includes integrative, complementary and alternative medicine techniques.

Many alternative medicines are very good including the alternative medicine “prayer”. This is one of the most powerful forms of alternative medicine.

With your spirituality and health you need discernment.There is good and bad in almost everything on earth including your health wellness and alternative medicine. As a Christian, use discernment when it comes to alternative medicine. If something doesn't feel right, ask your self,“who does this glorify?”

If the glory is given to any object, person or thing other than the living God of the Bible, be careful to avoid the danger. Better to stay with the Christian version of holistic health.

No need for you to go to any other god, force, energy, or created thing like calling on the universe to heal you. As a Christian you have God Himself to heal you through what ever way He chooses. Don't worship a creation when you have the Creator Himself.

He has many ways to bring healing to you. God gives you good doctors and dedicated scientists as He increases knowledge in the earth. There are many types of health providers and new discovery health products to help guide you in your quest for the benefits of Biblical holistic medicine.

 

[razeontherock]

I don't see anything blaringly wrong with Keiri and Kinesiology.

Did you actually mean Keiri, or did you mean reiki?

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I didn't read all 19 pages but...

Going to a holistic doctor is better for you sometimes because they can do more for you without having to pump your system full of harmful meds. I'd also recommend seeing a kinesiologist. Mine was actually a kinesiologist and a chiropractor. I had many issues like seizures, pains, vision issues and a ton of other stuff. She fixed about half of it by doing a bunch of things. Diet change, monthly sessions (sometimes adjustments), and some supplements that were fake like most are at the store.

Now, this doens't mean don't see a doctor. There are some things that only doctors can fix. She even said that. I have a ream of specialist doctors at the medical place I go. However I don't see my kinesiologist anymore simply because she was expensive and the government doesn't allow insurance to cover them since they work and hence the government can't make a ton of money off of people who get better.

And just so you know kinesiologist are ok for christians. They aren't into supernatural/spiritual stuff. Sometimes holistic people can be though. So be careful.

 

[razeontherock]

Going to a holistic doctor is better for you sometimes because they can do more for you without having to pump your system full of harmful meds.

Even without a "holistic Doctor," some of us can come out WAY ahead as compared to what Western medicine dishes out

However I don't see my kinesiologist anymore simply because she was expensive and the government doesn't allow insurance to cover them since they work and hence the government can't make a ton of money off of people who get better.

FDA = felons deliberately assaulting

And just so you know kinesiologist are ok for christians. They aren't into supernatural/spiritual stuff. Sometimes holistic people can be though. So be careful.

Probing for inconsistency: you said this person had you on supplements that were fake. Why? How is this a good thing? (And I have no idea what a kinesiologist is)

 

[Spiritlight]

Or worse, they have no actual need, and a grand total of 0 compassion for those that do.



Finally, a decent example in this thread! Now, what did you do to control a decent before / after picture, to determine if spirulina actually helps you? And at least as importantly, how much did you take? I tried a high quality form of it, and got precisely nothing out of it, but it's quite possible I didn't take nearly enough. I've also taken another supposed "superfood," that was just AMAZING. I should get more ...

Yeah eat heaps of it, If you take one or 2 little tablets of the pond slime, it wont do much so take 6 of them. I buy a big bottle of it for 30 bucks and take a handfull of them.


I also take it if i want to be alert. As a vegetarian who has a so so plan of nutrition I think to myself occasionally I better eat something to help compensate for things not in my diet so I eat some spirulina. It is great stuff if your diet in inadequate.

 

[Spiritlight]

One of the things I find odd about "christians" is that they refuse to admit mistakes. They play the victim, try to make others look like villians, anything to avoid accepting the truth. It's sad but it's also the norm around here.

What's so hard with acting like a respectable person who made a mistake? I thought christians held themeselves to a higher standard. Not so much, huh?

as soon as you tell someone you are christian they begin watching you like a hawk to check for hypocrisy and if you are different. we are just normal people like you and usually get a hard time for trying to follow a faith.

 

[razeontherock]

Yeah eat heaps of it It is great stuff if your diet in inadequate.

Have you ever tried a whey protein supplement?

 

[Spiritlight]

Have you ever tried a whey protein supplement?

It makes a good quick breakfast if i am dieting. Usually i dont need to supplement protein as I eat eggs and cheese and other stuff with it in.


Man it was good to be a voice of dissension in the almost everything is satanic thread and not to be shot down for it.


I think we as christians are beginning to be a bit more open minded and realise that acceptance of some things does not mean a compromise of standards.


I noticed people are starting to like us better.

 

[razeontherock]

It makes a good quick breakfast if i am dieting. Usually i dont need to supplement protein as I eat eggs and cheese and other stuff with it in.

A large egg = 3 grams of protein. How many of those do you need for it to be substantial? How much cheese do you need for any substantial amount of protein? It's really hard to get balanced nutrition from real food

 

[wannabeadesigirl]

God gave us pressure points, areas that feel good or bad when they're touched, nerve endings, and certain areas where our energy is focused more than others for a reason. Holistic doctors, and all those other questionable folk are using techniques that have been used far longer than modern medicene.
If I could afford a naturalistic doctor I would go to them, but alas the insurance companies don't like them because they're not as quick or as reliable as modern medicenes. So I just do research on herbs and consult my older brother when it comes to aches and pains.

I would suggest speaking to a nutritionist as well.

 

[Spiritlight]

A large egg = 3 grams of protein. How many of those do you need for it to be substantial? How much cheese do you need for any substantial amount of protein? It's really hard to get balanced nutrition from real food

I eat soy stuff too as well as Quorn, I am surte never lacking for protein, iron or other things. I keep on getting the thumbs up from blood tests from my doc.