Ignorant in the bad, lets judge him way, or ignorant in the good, wahoo im going to heaven way?
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"When someone views God's Creation and asserts it happed by chance,"
Come on Micaiah. Where is such a statement made by science?
Come on Micaiah. Where is such a statement made by science?
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*engage christianity mode*
"When someone views God's Creation and asserts it happed by chance"
It didn't hapen by chance, though. God created it that way. Evolution is the tool he used. In the (approximate) words of someone I can't remember the name of, 'God did not make creation, he did something even more wondrous - He made creation make itself.'
*disengage christianity mode*
Or maybe it was made by scientists in another universe, who were experimenting with the nature of space time. And their universe was made by scientists in another universe who were...you get the idea.
Or maybe there are a great many universes and each one is different so at least one has to work.
Or maybe this is all a massive computer simulation run by robots.
All I'm saying is, there are ways the Universe could exist without a god creating it through creation.
"When someone views God's Creation and asserts it happed by chance"
It didn't hapen by chance, though. God created it that way. Evolution is the tool he used. In the (approximate) words of someone I can't remember the name of, 'God did not make creation, he did something even more wondrous - He made creation make itself.'
*disengage christianity mode*
Or maybe it was made by scientists in another universe, who were experimenting with the nature of space time. And their universe was made by scientists in another universe who were...you get the idea.
Or maybe there are a great many universes and each one is different so at least one has to work.
Or maybe this is all a massive computer simulation run by robots.
All I'm saying is, there are ways the Universe could exist without a god creating it through creation.
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Or it could all be one loop, a mistake even.
In the future, man finally discovers time travel. The first experiment is messed up (possibly by forgetting to convert from one unit to another). The time travel device explodes, and also travels back in time. The explosion destroys space time and earth, it also travels back through time and space and gives the big bang a nudge that sets it off and creates the universe.
Man is then predestined to exist, because they screwed up and started the universe.
In the future, man finally discovers time travel. The first experiment is messed up (possibly by forgetting to convert from one unit to another). The time travel device explodes, and also travels back in time. The explosion destroys space time and earth, it also travels back through time and space and gives the big bang a nudge that sets it off and creates the universe.
Man is then predestined to exist, because they screwed up and started the universe.
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JohnR7
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Today at 04:13 PM Arikay said this in Post #24
Man is then predestined to exist, because they screwed up and started the universe.
Yep, just goes to show what a thin line there is between science and science fiction. A line that gets crossed far to often. "Good" science is often more creative writting than anything else.
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Knowledge also led to better medical care. Electricity, etc.
Now here comes the big one, are you ready?
Knowledge lead to your ability to read. Without it, you couldnt have read the bible. Your understanding of the past is dirrectly related to your knowledge of reading.
Ignorance is pretty much bad though. but ive already rambled on about that in another thread, but I can here too
Now here comes the big one, are you ready?
Knowledge lead to your ability to read. Without it, you couldnt have read the bible. Your understanding of the past is dirrectly related to your knowledge of reading.
Ignorance is pretty much bad though. but ive already rambled on about that in another thread, but I can here too
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I am not sure to which texts of the Bible you refer. I was not aware that there are references to evolutionary scientists in the Bible, however, my own view is that evolution is part of the creation process.
Genesis is an actual event taking place just now; it is not only a historical issue.
Everywhere in the world God is casting his hand over the chaos, but it is the chaos within us, and bringing order to the earth.
David
Genesis is an actual event taking place just now; it is not only a historical issue.
Everywhere in the world God is casting his hand over the chaos, but it is the chaos within us, and bringing order to the earth.
David
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So far:2 Japanese cities full of people. Unknown amount of soldiers in nuclear testing. A tribe of aboriginies in Australia and possibly John Wayne and probably 3 billion + in the coming future.
Nice to know we are safe with knowledge
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And how many people has ignorance killed?
Of course, knowledge doesnt kill anyone. its how you use the knowledge that does. Knowledge also allows you to be saved. So according to christianity, we are very safe with knowledge.
Of course, knowledge doesnt kill anyone. its how you use the knowledge that does. Knowledge also allows you to be saved. So according to christianity, we are very safe with knowledge.
Today at 06:41 PM webboffin said this in Post #33 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=688563#post688563)
So far:2 Japanese cities full of people. Unknown amount of soldiers in nuclear testing. A tribe of aboriginies in Australia and possibly John Wayne and probably 3 billion + in the coming future.
Nice to know we are safe with knowledge
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Yep, but now that we have it, we use it to save ourselves. How odd is that, that the same thing that condemned us, saves us.
Also, If adam and eve had enough knowledge to eat from the other tree as well, we wouldnt have trully fallen.
Also, If adam and eve had enough knowledge to eat from the other tree as well, we wouldnt have trully fallen.
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I believe that's "knowledge of good and evil." In other words, they desired the achievement of morality independent of God's guidance. Kinda like those people who view the Bible as God's stand-in, because it's so much easier to determine a worldview on one's own terms.
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LewisWildermuth
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Actually it was their desire for the fruit from the tree of "the knowledge of Good and Evil".
Fruit is symbolically used as actions or deeds or the result of actions or deeds in the bible. So it was not knowledge but the action of sinning that caused the fall.
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