God's Tears

[trophy33]

Is it not the Bible where you learn about God?

It is one of possible sources. But you must also realize that there have been Christians without a bible and even the Bible itself speak of people (like Abraham) who did not have any Scriptures but God praised them and their faith, their righteousness etc.

Where else would you learn about God an Jesus if not from the Bible?

Natural theology, logic, church/other Christians, the Holy Spirit, the creation itself (nature), other non-biblical writings, conscience, even from a special revelation from God himself or from angels, if you believe Bible in that...

Natural theology is a big one and it is accessible for everybody everywhere. However, regarding specifically Jesus Christ, you would need somebody having the knowledge about Jesus Christ, obviously.

Would it not be from the lips and books of men who claim to use the Bible?

Sometimes.

Would it be wise to be dragged here and there by men, rather than let the Bible be your "road map"?

You can be dragged here or there by anything. Our interpretation and understanding of things is constantly changing. Including the Bible.

Do you know whom atheists love most?

No.

 

[CoreyD]

It is one of possible sources. But you must also realize that there have been Christians without a bible and even the Bible itself speak of people (like Abraham) who did not have any Scriptures but God praised them and their faith, their righteousness etc.

Natural theology, logic, church/other Christians, the Holy Spirit, the creation itself (nature), other non-biblical writings, conscience, even from a special revelation from God himself or from angels, if you believe Bible in that...

How could the scripture exist at a time before they are penned?
Are you saying God asked Moses, Daniel and other men to write down his word for future generations... using Jesus apostles in the same way... including John, whom he told, "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near. These words are faithful and true.” And the Lord God of the holy prophets sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place. “Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
Then God bypassed all he had written, to talk audibly to persons?
Is that what you are saying?

Natural theology is a big one and it is accessible for everybody everywhere. However, regarding specifically Jesus Christ, you would need somebody having the knowledge about Jesus Christ, obviously.

Where do they claim to get this knowledge about Jesus Christ? Not from the Bible?
How can you believe a person when they claim the holy spirit spoke to them, when the Bible they "don't believe every word of" is what mentioned the holy spirit in the first place, and says the Bible is a product of holy spirit? 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21

Sometimes.

You can be dragged here or there by anything. Our interpretation and understanding of things is constantly changing. Including the Bible.

Not by anything. Does God, Jesus and the holy spirit drag persons? No they don't.
I suppose when you say the Bible changes, you mean different translations... or revisions.
A revised version is not the Bible changing necessarily.
The Bible - those 66 little books, do not change.

No.

You don't?
I hope you find out soon.
If I told you, that would not help.

 

[Meowzltov]

Perhaps you misunderstood what I said, or... hopefully you didn't confused empathy with sentimentality.
However, thanks for asking.

Could I ask one question....
If your husband... God forbid, molested his own daughter, and raped... Uhm... I'd better use something else.
I think you get the point.

Regardless of one's closeness and love for family, or other relatives, justice, and righteousness take priority over sentiment.

I think that true love includes tough love. I have the luck of being born into an extremely loving, caring family. But if I murdered someone, my parents would turn me in. Then they would visit me weekly in jail.

 

[CoreyD]

I think that true love includes tough love.

Yes. We call that justice, and in some cases, discipline.

I have the luck of being born into an extremely loving, caring family.

I'm glad to hear that you aren't one of the unfortunate.

But if I murdered someone, my parents would turn me in. Then they would visit me weekly in jail.

Provided you are not in any of these countries,

China
The death penalty is mandatory for intentional murder, though exact figures are undisclosed due to state secrecy.

Iran
The death penalty is applied for murder, among other crimes, and the legal system does not always confine its use to the most serious crimes.

Saudi Arabia
Murder is punishable by death, and executions are carried out by beheading or other methods.

United States
The death penalty is used for murder in some states, though the number of executions has decreased in recent years.

Singapore
Murder with no intention to kill can result in a life sentence instead of the death penalty, but intentional murder still carries the death penalty.

Iraq
The death penalty is applied for murder, and executions are carried out by hanging.

Egypt
The death penalty is applied for murder, though the exact number of executions is not disclosed.

Bangladesh
The death penalty is applied for murder, and five executions were recorded in 2023.

Vietnam
The death penalty is applied for murder, though exact figures are undisclosed.

Japan
The death penalty is applied for murder, and executions are carried out by hanging.

...and a couple others.
Or they give you more than a week to sweat.

Yes, God is both loving and just, and he balances those qualities perfectly.

 

[Godcrazy]

When tears flowed.
And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it. Luke 19:41

Why the tears flowed.

For the days will come upon you when your enemies will barricade you and surround you and hem you in on every side.
They will level you to the ground - you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation from God.”
Luke 19:43, 44

Why does Jesus weep at the scene he foresees, of wayward Jews being slayed, along with their children?
Jesus says, they brought it on themselves, yet, Jesus wept.... Literally shed tears, at the destruction these ones would suffered.
Why?

What does this tell us about God's feelings - his pain of heart over those who suffer... even wayward ones?

It says that he weeps for the lost, and wayward as I interpret it I can`t take God crying I start crying